Jed,

This is a marvellous post. Thanks.

Andrew
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jed Rothwell 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:19 AM
  Subject: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility


  We all know that Rossi has some personal credibility problems. He has been 
involved in some dodgy business. As I have pointed out before you can say that 
about many important people such as Edison and Steve Jobs who got his start 
selling devices to steal from the telephone company. People are complicated and 
you should not have a one-dimensional view of their worth.

  Lost in the middle of another large thread, Jones Beene listed some reasons 
why Rossi does have some personal credibility. Let me copy his entire message 
and then add some other reasons.


  QUOTE

  . . . AR sold his biofuel company EON for about one million Euro and could 
have retired comfortably to Miami on that income. This is a matter of public 
record.

  Instead - he reinvests the proceeds of the EON sale into his project ! Does 
that sound like a scammer?

  It is preposterous that anyone would claim that he does this sale of a 
profitable company – and then reinvestment the proceeds to perpetuate as scam, 
with which to obtain enough capital for “adequate living” when he already had 
that to begin with. Instead he has to go through the constant reminders of his 
past legal difficulties, in order to find a solution to one of societies 
greatest problems?

  Get a life! These people like Krivit, etc -- who blindly suggest scam because 
they personally were not honored with a demo -- ought to at least do their 
homework first and read what is available in the public record before spouting 
crap about scam, since there is no plausible motive which would be worth the 
risk.

  END QUOTE


  Right! Here are some other reasons --

  People who have worked with Rossi tell me that he works 10 to 14 hours a day. 
As Beene says, he could have retired comfortably but instead he spends hours a 
day doing difficult, painstaking and sometimes dangerous experiments in a 
crowded workshop.

  People who know him tell me he is a genius at the workbench. He has the kind 
of intellect that expresses itself in prototype machinery, not abstract ideas. 
This in no way denigrates his abilities. Some people express ideas in words and 
formulas, others by making equipment. I think Edison mainly worked by building 
actual prototypes. You might also compare Rossi to a great artist such as Rodin.

  Independent observers tell me that he really did make dozens of prototype 
devices for his 1 MW reactor, which he then modified and modified again. I 
think he scrapped a large number of them at one point, and started over from 
scratch. This must have cost a fortune.

  This is not the profile of a scammer. If the equipment was fake, he could 
produce it quickly with minimal effort. He would not spend hundreds of 
thousands of dollars making prototype equipment which he then trashes. He would 
make one or two fake, stage-prop prototypes, and he would use them again and 
again. He would not spend thousands of dollars renting a large workshop, 
renting a gasoline powered 200 kW generator, or buying a shipping container. 
You can make a fake energy device much smaller than this, at a tiny fraction of 
this cost. Putting hundreds of devices inside a shipping container does not 
enhance your credibility with scientists and investors. On the contrary, most 
people find that odd. 

  A scammer would not invite important people from NASA to his lab and then do 
a demonstration that clearly fails to work. If he has the ability to put on a 
demonstration that fools people and fools instruments, why wouldn't he use that 
ability every time, for every audience? The people from NASA are experts, but 
no more capable than others who saw the equipment when it was working properly. 
There is no question that in other demonstrations the performance was quite 
different from the failed demonstration that day.


  I cannot prove by logic and common sense that Rossi is not a faker. This sort 
of thing cannot be demonstrated with rigorous proof, the way an experiment or 
an equation can be. But everything I know about history, society, confidence 
men, and my experience with people like Rossi tell me that he is not faking. He 
does have a powerful reality distortion field. Some gifted people do, 
especially inventors and entrepreneurs such as Edison and Steve Jobs. I define 
this as someone who sees things in his imagination more clearly than he sees 
things in reality, and who has a strange charisma that sometimes causes other 
people share his visions. Such people are dangerous. They often cause 
disasters. But they also build things that most people think are impossible, 
such as the Brooklyn Bridge and the airplane.


  Fleischmann and Pons were nothing like this, by the way. They were painfully 
conventional people, as Martin often said.

  - Jed

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