Jones, fellow Vorts:
[sorry, changed the Subject line since I like catchy one-liners]
As he swallows the Red Pill…
It’s kinda dark in this rabbit hole, but venturing down a bit further, I found
this:
http://phys.org/news/2013-05-skyrmions-ferromagnet-centrosymmetry.html
“… magnetic skyrmions have been shown to have very interesting and
unprecedented properties, such as a very great anomalous Hall effect and
skyrmion motion under ultra-low-density currents.”
“… nanomagnetic clusters spontaneously form skyrmion structures even in
*ferromagnetic* manganese oxides where the crystal structures have
centrosymmetry. This result suggests the possibility that skyrmion structures
might be formed even in *nanomagnetic clusters* and nanoparticles of *various
ferromagnets* that do not meet the conditions conventionally deemed necessary.
“The skyrmions observed in this research indicate a phenomenon in which the
magnetic vortex repeatedly inverts between clockwise and counterclockwise at a
***certain temperature***
because of thermal fluctuation. It was also found, moreover, that when two
skyrmions come close together, they invert to the same vortex direction *in
synch with each other*. “
Hmmm, I wonder how far down this rabbit hole goes?
;-)
Where’s my sunglasses…
And re: Jones’ comment,
“The classic example is the “rogue wave” in the Ocean which is not just
subhertz but a few per year.
Yeah, but was that rogue wave created in a single instant meeting of several
smaller waves, or did it build up over time because it happened to encounter
more CONstructive interfering waves vs DEstructive ones???
-Mark Iverson
From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 2:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input?
I think we are getting somewhere in this investigation by looking at the subtle
and not so subtle effects of low frequency waves.
A search of the Dardik superwave information shows that many of the carrier
waves are low frequency. Some are very low.
The classic example is the “rogue wave” in the Ocean which is not just subhertz
but a few per year.
And yes the trouble with “deconstructing Andre” is that he is fond of mixing
truth, half-truth, and intentional decoy information… sometimes in the same
sentence.
From: David Roberson
A steady state magnetic field will penetrate the stainless steel. A time
changing one will be attenuated as eddy currents induced within the metal
generate a reverse field that counters the source field to an extent that
depends upon the rate of change of that field.
The metal thickness is also crucial to the ultimate level of shielding.
Mark, as you say the changes in the PWM waveform that occur at a slow rate will
find their way inside. I am not confident that this is a mechanism that Rossi
uses, but it might have some effect.
It appears strange that Rossi does not wish to reveal the resistor drive
waveforms. Perhaps he is using a moderate frequency drive signal for some
reason that we are unaware of, only he knows.
One thing is obvious, he likes to keep us guessing.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 5:18 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input?
Mr. Lynn,
You’re a bit too quick on the trigger…
Let me repeat myself, a *magnetic* field WILL penetrate most austenitic
stainless steels.
However, I know that a static mag-field is not the same as the magnetic
component of an oscillating EM field, so I called a colleague who worked for
Varian for 40 years, and who has a lot of magnetics expertise. He said that
static, and possibly VLF, magnetic fields will penetrate nonmagnetic stainless
steels, but that the magnetic component of EM waves of any significant
frequency will probably not.
Another consideration, and I think this was mentioned in the Collective two (or
was it three) years ago right after Rossi’s first January demonstration, is
that when the electrical resistance heaters are energized (with DC), they will
generate a mag-fld around them. This can probably be considered a static
mag-field, and will likely penetrate the non-magnetic 310 stainless cylinder,
so the internal core of the reactor may very well feel this PWM-modulated field.
-Mark Iverson
From: Robert Lynn [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]?> ]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 10:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input?
To repeat myself, there will be no significant em field penetrating the
reactor. So don't try to fool yourself that there is some special secret about
using em fields to instigate or promote the reaction, also Rossi has claimed in
past to have it running using gas heating. Rossi's setup only allows for heat
to get in. The skin depth of the 3mm thick SS vessel will exclude all fields
above probably about 100-200Hz entirely, and will greatly attenuate lower
frequencies as well (DC would get through) but the surrounding magnetic fields
in the resistors themselves are very weak anyway. (not that many turns).
If he wanted or needed magnetic fields to penetrate the reactor then he would
not be using spiral wound resistors arrayed around the reactor vessel, he would
have a coil wound around the reactor vessel.
As such preventing measurement of current and voltage through the heating
resistors looks very suspicious - as there is nothing there to be sensibly
hidden if we take him at his word.
On 24 May 2013 17:56, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
Looks like Dardik’s superwave tech is an application – not a granted patent
http://www.google.com/patents/US20080316782?dq=energetics+dardik
<http://www.google.com/patents/US20080316782?dq=energetics+dardik&ei=LJufUbHwM8XsiwLe5oDgDg&cl=en>
&ei=LJufUbHwM8XsiwLe5oDgDg&cl=en
Mark,
In the end – it looks to me like the secrecy about the wave-from was probably
due to similarity to the Energetics patent and not a “trade secret” per se; and
that Rossi is using the magnetic properties of the waveform to stimulate the
nickel powder, which is itself ferromagnetic.
Would you agree?
SS spec sheet:
http://www.northamericanstainless.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Grade-310S-314.pdf
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint
“It is possible that RF would pass through these ceramics, no?”
Yes, more than likely that RF could pass thru a ceramic, however, if
electrically conductive, then probably not.
An E or B field will most likely go thru the ceramics, but the reactor vessel
is stainless steel:
“The most important element of the E-Cat HT was lodged inside the
structure.
It consisted of an AISI 310 steel cylinder, 3 mm thick and 33 mm in diameter,
housing the powder
charges. Two AISI 316 steel cone-shaped caps were hot-hammered in the
cylinder, sealing it
hermetically. Cap adherence was obtained by exploiting the higher thermal
expansion coefficient
of AISI 316 with respect to AISI 310 steel.”
End caps are made of 316 due to greater coef of thermal expansion:
310: 15.5x10-6
316: 16.5x10-6
For our noninvasive glucose sensor, we used a Ni-plated soft iron housing which
acts as both a faraday cage to shield outside EM, and to complete a magnetic
flux circuit which channels the flux from internal permanent mags.
Since stainless is only about 50% Fe, a mag fld should penetrate it, but due to
its electrical conductivity, an E-fld would not. In that case, is he using
magnetic properties to help control the reaction? Is it causing alignment of
grains, or forcing dipole oscillations to be aligned?
-Mark
From: Jones Beene
Robert Lynn wrote:
And all of the resistive heating elements are positioned around it, so they do
nothing but deliver heat to the reactor contents - no special magnetic or
electrical excitation can pass through the reactor vessel.
There is still confusion on that point. From Forbes article:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/05/20/finally-independent-testing-of-rossis-e-cat-cold-fusion-device-maybe-the-world-will-change-after-all/
They described the E-Cat HT as a cylinder having a silicon nitride ceramic
outer shell, 33 cm in length, and 10 cm in diameter. A second cylinder made of
a different ceramic material (corundum) was located within the shell...
It is possible that RF would pass through these ceramics, no?
