On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is a depressing exchange at FreeRepublic. That is a depressing > website. > ***Not normally. It's right wing politics. Most Vorts seem to be left wing. > > I gave up on discussions of this nature years ago. I figure there is no > point to arguing with people who will not do their homework. They have no > interest in learning the truth. > ***I don't mind, for a while. I see it as documenting the dialog. But the reason why I started posting exchanges here is that the moderators at FR started pulling threads entirely, getting rid of ALL the dialog. It's bizarre. In the early days of FR there were huge flamewars, threads about Iran-Contra conspiracies & chemtrails & Vince Foster windups and all kinds of stuff. So why all of a sudden is there this concern about how FR looks? Especially when there's so much real scientific evidence (like those 14,700 replications) that lends itself to the debate? Something doesn't add up, and since my purpose was to document the dialog, that's what I'm doing here. > I think it is better to seek out people who are friendly toward cold > fusion, and who want to learn about it. Fortunately, thousands of such > people visit LENR-CANR every week. So I think the way to make progress is > to write good papers and upload them. Really good papers belong in > Biberian's journal, which is published by CMNS, and copied to LENR-CANR.org > and maybe to other sites. > ***Sure, but what is a layman supposed to do to promote the scientific investigation of cold fusion? The article I wrote was about how I made money at it, and it was greeted with a yawn. http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg37540.html I've also tried to contact Hydrofusion to set up a demo plant in Sweden -- LENR powered Hot Tubs in Sweden, as a schtick. No response. http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/06/15/psstt-want-an-e-cat-lenr-generator-for-free/ I've tried to get hired by Rossi, even Infinia corp knowing that Stirling Cycle engines are likely to go in big with LENR. They went out of business. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.prnewswire.com%2Fnews-releases%2Finfinia-corporation-implements-voluntary-chapter-11-petition-seeks-offers-225236832.html&ei=5O6gUqneKJfgoASdzYKAAw&usg=AFQjCNHcNjkpxB1uNuBQHaSLZ2KLpNJnAg&sig2=E0ZL_BonlRCZxYxi2XEDgg > I am glad that Kevin went to the trouble to preserve this exchange. We > should file away copies of things like this from time to time, for future > historians. They will see what we were up against. In the past, after > scientific disputes were settled, I suppose much of the losing arguments > were lost. > ***That is my primary purpose in setting up this Asked & Answered thread. As usual, you see the big picture and the value of it. If you had not set up Lenr-canr.org, I would have done that. > > The latest message in this exchange is more of the same: > > Why won’t you tell people your “published data” won’t heat a teakettle? > > The answer is: "That is incorrect. In some cases cold fusion cells have > produced 100 W or more, and they have boiled 10 to 50 ml of water > continuously for hours or in a few cases, for months." > ***Got links? I'll post them. > > That would be the answer, but I see no point to posting it. > ***I'll post it. But I've noticed in the past that as the Internet gets scrubbed, links go dry. So it's likely that I'll be posting articles wholesale. By the way, in the past I have engaged in this behavior and been chastised for it due to copyright "issues" manufactured by someone who was mining current links to make money on advertising. > > Incidentally, for people who are looking for introductory material, some > of the documents I recommend are here: > > http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=263 > > Scroll down to "Papers for the general reader" > > - Jed > > ***Thanks for all you do, Jed. If you find yourself in Silicon Valley (and I'm gainfully employed) I'll take you out to dinner. You can contact me at Four Oh Eight, 460 Fihive Seheven Oh Seheven.
