On Dec 9, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote:
The press conference was a very big mistake and it was the heart of
the disaster.
Just because someone else was going to do it, doesn't excuse the
behavior. They should have let him do it.
They did not have a choice. The press conference was forced on them by
the university. The heart of the disaster was failure of the important
laboratories to replicate, The failure to replicate was caused by an
unwillingness to understand what F-P had done. People who did the
experiment correctly did replicate, but not often enough. In addition,
the physics community made the assumption that the claimed effect was
caused by hot fusion. This assumption was wrong. It turns out F-P
were right and the physics community was wrong. Unfortunately, this
error is hard for them to admit.
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Edmund Storms
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Dec 9, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Foks0904 . wrote:
Obviously major mistakes were made by P&F. The press conference was
a mistake.
That is obvious only after the fact. If F-P had not made a public
announcement, Jones would have. In fact, the claim would have gotten
attention without the announcement
Calling it fusion was a mistake.
But it is fusion. Do you want F-P to lie?
The question is: were the results (excess heat + nuclear products)
a delusion? 25 years later and hundreds of successful replications
later and 3 major commercial products in the works the clear answer
is a resounding "NO".
Yes, this is true. The evidence is now overwhelming. Ignorance is
the only problem.
This presentation is both insightful yet beyond myopic and ignorant
at the same time. Stress on myopic and ignorant.
I see nothing insightful. The claims are a simple-minded repetition
of what the skeptics said 23 years ago.
Regards.
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Kevin O'Malley
<[email protected]> wrote:
I could use some help from some knowledgeable vorts to counter
these accusations...
Cold Fusion Confusion and Questionable Ethics
http://www.ptei.org/docs/ColdFusionPresentation.pdf