I thought Kevin just made the point that Rossi was not convicted of a felony. I guess what you're saying is that even if he had been, it wouldn't matter. Well, that's an argument for another day.
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:34 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > Kevin, the skeptics have failed to prove that Rossi does not have a real > device. They always fall back on character assassination when they have > nothing left. I guess you might think that if someone once committed a > felony, then it is likely that they might repeat. This belief may be true > in many cases, but it is unfair to anyone who has changed their ways. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:20 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Asked & Answered > > There seems to be another thing that skeptopaths engage in. They try to > turn any LENR discussion into Andrea Rossi and his past. LENR had 14,700 > replications before Andrea Rossi ever showed up on the scene. > > And BTW, Wikipedia recently removed all the supposed convictions of fraud > for Rossi, because the evidence could not support it under a very simple > response by Rossi that they need to either put up or shut up, so they shut > up. Rossi is convicted tax evader. That's it. No fraud convictions, if > Wikipedia is to be believed. > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]>wrote: > >> How to know you're dealing with a skeptopath: they won't read the >> simplest evidence put in front of them. >> >> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=32#32 >> >> >> To: *tacticalogic* >> *"I'd be interested in a practical source of energy, and you keep >> hawking this like it is. Where's the beef?"* >> Nah, you're just regurgitating the standard crawfishing that all >> skeptopaths do when they can no longer claim that there is "no scientific >> evidence" for cold fusion. >> First the refrain was "cold fusion experiments cannot be repeated". >> Then, when the researchers "did" improve the repeatability, the refrain >> became "cold fusion experiments cannot be repeated fifty percent of the >> time. >> Then, when repeatability increased past 50%, the refrain became "cold >> fusion experiments cannot be repeated 100% of the time". >> Now, as some researchers repeatabiltity numbers approach 100%, the >> refrain has become "the amount of power is miniscule, even if it "can" be >> repeated". >> So, the answer to your question is "the beef is still growing". And an >> HONEST respondent would admit that. >> But in the not too distant future, I look forward to when LENR "does" >> produce usable amounts of power. I wonder what you skeptopaths will say >> then. >> 32 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=32#32>posted >> on *Wed >> 27 Nov 2013 05:28:54 AM PST* by Wonder >> Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> >> [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=32>| >> Private >> Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.32;reftype=comment>| >> To >> 31 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#31> | View >> Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=32> | >> Report >> Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=32>] >> ------------------------------ >> To: *Wonder Warthog* >> *Nah, you're just regurgitating the standard crawfishing that all >> skeptopaths do when they can no longer claim that there is "no scientific >> evidence" for cold fusion.* >> Lemme guess. You can't show me the evidence to back that up, I'm supposed >> to go find it. >> 33 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=33#33>posted >> on *Wed >> 27 Nov 2013 05:34:11 AM PST* by >> tacticalogic<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Etacticalogic/> >> [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=33>| >> Private >> Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.33;reftype=comment>| >> To >> 32 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#32> | View >> Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=33> | >> Report >> Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=33>] >> ------------------------------ >> To: *tacticalogic* >> *"Lemme guess. You can't show me the evidence to back that up, I'm >> supposed to go find it."* >> Not quite. I'll give you two starting places. The first is George >> Beaudette's book "Excess Heat". You can access this either by buying a copy >> (Amazon)($), or via interlibrary loan (free or $ depending on the policies >> of your local library. >> The second is Edmund Storm's collection of summaries of LENR research, >> which can easily be found with Google search terms ("Edmund Storms" cold >> fusion pdf). Most of the pdf's can be found at LENR-CANR.org. All are >> available free. >> Now, why don't I give you direct links?? Because I have found that there >> is no better litmus test about the honesty or lack of same of the various >> skeptics that show up on these LENR threads. The skeptopaths will NOT >> follow up. NOTHING will induce them to actually examine the evidence. The >> honest skeptics do. >> 34 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=34#34>posted >> on *Wed >> 27 Nov 2013 08:46:23 AM PST* by Wonder >> Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> >> [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=34>| >> Private >> Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.34;reftype=comment>| >> To >> 33 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#33> | View >> Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=34> | >> Report >> Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=34>] >> ------------------------------ >> To: *Wonder Warthog* >> I’ve looked at LENR-CANR.org. It’s interesting research, but I can’t >> find any research that’s actually producing measurable amounts of power to >> justify the hyperbole surrouding the phenomenon. >> >> 35 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=35#35>posted >> on *Wed >> 27 Nov 2013 10:24:46 AM PST* by >> tacticalogic<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Etacticalogic/> >> [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=35>| >> Private >> Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.35;reftype=comment>| >> To >> 34 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#34> | View >> Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=35> | >> Report >> Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=35>] >> ------------------------------ >> To: *tacticalogic* >> *"I’ve looked at LENR-CANR.org. It’s interesting research, but I can’t >> find any research that’s actually producing measurable amounts of power to >> justify the hyperbole surrouding the phenomenon."* >> LOL. Yeah, right. You're read all the thousands of papers at >> LENR-CANR.org. SSUUUURREEE you have. >> If you proceed from either of the start points I gave you, you will find >> the data quite easily, as the references to specific papers are well >> documented in both of them. >> But you won't, will you. >> 36 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=36#36>posted >> on *Wed >> 27 Nov 2013 01:36:37 PM PST* by Wonder >> Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> >> [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=36>| >> Private >> Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.36;reftype=comment>| >> To >> 35 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#35> | View >> Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=36> | >> Report >> Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=36>] >> ------------------------------ >> To: *Wonder Warthog* >> No, I won’t go through those thousands of pages looking for the >> documentation of a practical demonstration of the technology. That’s based >> on an assumption that if any such documented demonstration had taken place >> it wouldn’t be buried somewhere down in those thousands of pages, where it >> could only be found by sifting through those thousands of pages. >> >> 37 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=37#37>posted >> on *Wed >> 27 Nov 2013 01:47:35 PM PST* by >> tacticalogic<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Etacticalogic/> >> [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=37>| >> Private >> Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.37;reftype=comment>| >> To >> 36 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#36> | View >> Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=37> | >> Report >> Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=37>] >> ------------------------------ >> To: *Kevmo* >> *Nuclear energy is based on the use of fissile materials, and is not a >> solution, because the stock of these materials is limited.* >> >> Not with breeder reactors. >> 38 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#38>posted >> on *Wed >> 27 Nov 2013 06:57:26 PM PST* by >> aruanan<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Earuanan/> >> [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=38>| >> Private >> Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.38;reftype=comment>| >> To >> 1 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#1> | View >> Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=38> | >> Report >> Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=38>] >> ------------------------------ >> To: *tacticalogic* >> *"No, I won’t go through those thousands of pages looking for the >> documentation of a practical demonstration of the technology. That’s based >> on an assumption that if any such documented demonstration had taken place >> it wouldn’t be buried somewhere down in those thousands of pages, where it >> could only be found by sifting through those thousands of pages."* >> LOL...you're precisely proving my point. Pure Skeptopath. >> Clue.....if you start with the Storm's freely available PDF writeups >> (any of them), the information is nicely broken down according to what sort >> of proof is available, including direct references to (at least the >> important) papers on the subject. This includes heat, tritium production, >> transmutation, correlation of heat to He4 production, and other. >> This means exactly that you don't "have" to "go through thousands of >> pages of documentation looking.......", as the references are already >> sorted out and documented. Storms has already done that. Beaudette's book >> likewise, though a bit dated nowadays. >> And of course, most of the full papers are available at LENR-CANR.org. >> Route of easiest discovery....Beaudette first, then Storms for newer >> information, then LENR-CANR for full papers. >> But you won't look at any of those, of course, because your real >> interest is not in discovering how the world works, but bashing LENR. >> 39 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=39#39>posted >> on *Thu >> 28 Nov 2013 04:50:15 AM PST* by Wonder >> Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> >> [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=39>| >> Private >> Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.39;reftype=comment>| >> To >> 37 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#37> | View >> Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=39> | >> Report >> Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=39>] >> ------------------------------ >> To: *Wonder Warthog* >> *LOL...you're precisely proving my point. Pure Skeptopath.* >> Clue...you throw "Skeptopath" around the way gays do with "homophobe". >> 40 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=40#40>posted >> on *Thu >> 28 Nov 2013 04:56:27 AM PST* by >> tacticalogic<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Etacticalogic/> >> [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=40>| >> Private >> Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.40;reftype=comment>| >> To >> 39 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#39> | View >> Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=40> | >> Report >> Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=40>] >> ------------------------------ >> To: *tacticalogic* >> *"Clue...you throw "Skeptopath" around the way gays do with >> "homophobe"."* >> Only to those who prove themselves to be such by their own behavior on >> these threads. But thanks for proving my points so fully and >> wholeheartedly. As usual, total refusal to actually look at the published >> information, and any comment to shunt attention to that behavior away the >> one refusing. An exact fit to the phrase "pathological skepticism". >> 41 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=41#41>posted >> on *Thu >> 28 Nov 2013 09:52:21 AM PST* by Wonder >> Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> >> [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=41>| >> Private >> Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.41;reftype=comment>| >> To >> 40 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#40> | View >> Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=41> | >> Report >> Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=41>] >> ------------------------------ >> To: *Wonder Warthog* >> *Only to those who prove themselves to be such by their own behavior on >> these threads.* >> That's what the homos say, too. >> 42 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=42#42>posted >> on *Thu >> 28 Nov 2013 09:54:33 AM PST* by >> tacticalogic<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Etacticalogic/> >> [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=42>| >> Private >> Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.42;reftype=comment>| >> To >> 41 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#41> | View >> Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=42> | >> Report >> Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=42>] >> ------------------------------ >> To: *tacticalogic* >> *"That's what the homos say, too."* >> LOL. More proof. You'll say or do anything to avoid confronting the issue >> of the existing data. >> Here is the difference between you skeptopaths and real skeptics. A real >> science skeptic, given the references I have provided would not rest until >> he/she had read them. >> A skeptopath will say or do anything to avoid reading them and change >> the subject to avoid acknowledging their existence, much less actually read >> and study them. >> Methinks the shoe fits you quite well. >> Enjoy your turkey, turkey. >> 43 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=43#43>posted >> on *Thu >> 28 Nov 2013 03:49:43 PM PST* by Wonder >> Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> >> [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=43>| >> Private >> Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.43;reftype=comment>| >> To >> 42 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#42> | View >> Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=43> | >> Report >> Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=43>] >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I'm growing weary of the same objections, over and over and over again >>> on various internet sites. So I'm going to post each q&a here & just send >>> links. >>> >>> >>> >> >
