I agree that vertical force is likely the direction of drive. I can visualize that the vertical force originating from the tides has a gradient that changes with time along the long dimension of the device. That must be true for normal tides which can be seen by the behavior of water movement at the beaches. Trust me, I am not convinced that the magnitude of these forces is significant along a machine of this small size. Actually, I would be pleasantly surprised to find that this possible tidal mechanism actually can generate useful power on a small scale. I doubt that anyone questions that Earth scale machines can generate significant levels of power this way.
I suppose that we must leave open the concept that some unknown source of energy might be tapped by this device. That is one reason that a carefully measured experiment should be attempted. Dave -----Original Message----- From: ucar <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>; ucar <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 12:33 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:New RAR photos >From the design, I see horizontal mass movements are not relevant. What is >left is vertical movement. I don't think any sinusodial movement lead to >energy production this way, otherwise we should notice such anomalies from >innumerable industrial devices. Therefore we should examine the waveform of >the masses. Second or higher orders of harmonics? My favorite is the second because it make the waveform asymmetric. Asymmetry is interesting becuse lot of intereting things based on asymmetry like diodes, pumps, mechanism capturing energy from waves. For example suppose gravitational pull down is sensitive to velocity. On a symmetric movement (sinusoidal) net gain is zero but not on asymmetric ones. Now are there common machines around us involving heavy parts to asymmetric movements? Not yet found one. So let design one of them. Could it resemble to RAR?

