However efficient you are at utilizing electrons, it comes no where close
to the energy of annihilating them.

But maybe the electrons were already existed and simply are being
collected/transferred.

Patrick Flanagan patented an ionizer that consists of 2 circular plates
feed AC, the rate at which the ions move through the room seems anomalous.

There are other inventors that seem to conduct electrons through
insulators, and this has been found in Tesla Coils too.

So maybe it is possible to aetherically/quantum jump/slip electrons that
are suitably conditioned.

John



On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> The same charge creation process holds for the Papp engine. Charge
> increase was used to feed the capacitive spark discharge of the opposing
> cylinder. Smart engineering can use this  seemingly wasteful  feature
> to full advantage just as Joe Papp did.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:49 PM, John Berry <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> The creation of charge? The creation of electrons?
>>
>> Any FE device that does this is wasting energy by manifesting matter.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Karpen's_Pile_--_A_Battery_That_Has_Produced_Energy_Continuously_Since_1950s
>>>
>>> Karpen's pile
>>>
>>> This device has all the earmarks of a nanoplasmonic system almost
>>> identical in concept if not structure to Piantelli's reactor.
>>>
>>> A highly pitted platinum surface is covered with an excellent
>>> dielectric, pure sulfuric acid(100). Gold provides the supporting substrate,
>>>
>>> The pits in the platinum produce optical cavities that capture heat and
>>> electrons that will form polariton vortexes. The uncertainty principle will
>>> increase the energy levels in the optical cavities as more electrons and
>>> photons are captured until solitons explode in a bosenova.
>>>
>>> The increase in EMF energy is converted into electrons and a potential
>>> is formed to drive a current.
>>>
>>> Just like Karpen's pile, Piantelli has reported the creation of charge
>>> in his device.
>>>
>>
>>
>

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