Ed--

You stated--
>If the limitations imposed by chemistry are applied to what is actually 
>observed, the explanation becomes much clearer.

What limitations do you have in mind?

Bob Cook
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Edmund Storms 
  To: [email protected] 
  Cc: Edmund Storms 
  Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:The elephant in the room,


  Axil, after considerable thought and examination of the literature, I can say 
with certain that the various theories are flawed because they do not 
acknowledge the chemical conditions in which LENR occurs. Too often various 
esoteric quantum processes are applied that are in basic conflict with the 
requirements imposed by the chemical structure and by well know laws and 
observation. If the limitations imposed by chemistry are applied to what is 
actually observed, the explanation becomes much clearer. You in particular, 
throw any idea that comes to mind at the wall and hope something sticks. As a 
result, your wall makes no sense to you. If you would focus on what is known 
about LENR, you would find out exactly what the elephant looks like. 


  Ed Storms





  On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Axil Axil wrote:


    The primary issue that the LENR theorist faces is to judge “how much is 
enough” or “how far do we need to zoom in”.

    The reason why there are so many cold fusion theories is that most 
theorists have not approached the essence of the LENR issue.

    To illustrate the situation that LENR faces as a huge and vastly 
complicated issue is similar to the King who wanted to know the true essence of 
a problem.  To teach his advisors a lesson on how best to arrive at truth, he 
asked his advisors to determine what an elephant looked like by feeling 
different parts of the elephant's body. The men were led into a darken room 
where an elephant quietly stood. The man who feels its leg says the elephant is 
like a pillar; the one who feels the tail says the elephant is like a rope; the 
one who feels the trunk says the elephant is like a tree branch; the one who 
feels the ear says the elephant is like a hand fan; the one who feels the belly 
says the elephant is like a wall; and the one who feels the tusk says the 
elephant is like a solid pipe.


    The king explains to them: All of you are right. The reason every one of 
you is telling it differently is because each one of you have touched the 
different part of the elephant. So, actually the elephant has all the features 
you mentioned. To know the true essence of the elephant, you must put all these 
characteristics together into a coherent whole.

    Like a huge elephant standing quietly in a darkened room, the reason why 
there are so many theories of LENR is because each theory limits itself to just 
one particular manifestation of the LENR phenomena.  

    We must not confuse effect with cause. We must keep our hands moving and 
groping and feeling the huge dark animal that stands before us. We must keep on 
zooming in to find the true essence of what LENR is all about and not restrict 
ourselves to just one part of a vastly more complicated whole.

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