Mark--Good find-- I just finished the items you noted. The presentation by Fischbach is compelling IME that the Sun produces something that travels with at least the speed of light that significantly changes the decay rates of beta emitters at least. His suggested explanation of spin coupling energy transfer from the spin of neutrinos via a spin orbit type field (phase space)with a 1 au range may be the answer. In the various related papers it seems it is also call the 5th force.
Again the spin interactions seem to be important and allow for energy transfer among particles. One interesting observation is that the Sun's neutrino source seems to be only 1/9 of the total neutrino flux that could be influencing the decay rates. The obvious other source is the Earth itself. This may give basis for the theory that nuclear reactions and their production of neutrinos are providing the internal heat that the Earth emits. I doubt that the sum total of all the surface reactors would add up to the neutrino flux being suggested as the ambient condition on the surface, although it may. The local flux around a reactor could explain the variation in decay rates reported by various researchers for any given isotope. Fischbach did not go this far in his talk. The average neutrino flux from the known reactors could be calculated. It would be interesting to see how this compares to the total in the vicinity of the Earth. This would provide the ratio of the man made sources and the natural sources of neutrino for Earth. Radioactive decay rate experiments on the Moon would be instructive in further understanding the issue of the influence of neutrinos. The other question that comes up is how has the neutrino flux on Earth changed over the years, if its primary source is internal. It would mean that the radio isotope decay rates used for geologic dating techniques today would need to be corrected for such flux changes. This would seem to be necessary at least for beta decay isotopes being used for dating. Maybe with spin coupling there is another mechanism for energy transport through solids--for example the Sun from the center to the surface--that involves neutrino interactions via spin with the other hadrons in the Sun. This would add to radiant heat transfer, conduction and convection already known. It may be important in understanding the fusion rates at the center of the Sun and predicted lifetimes. Fewer fusions may be happening than previously thought given the improved heat transfer and lower temperatures. Other conjectures with pop up in this forum I believe. Bob Cook ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Jurich To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 10:48 PM Subject: [Vo]:Re: LENR on the sun Bob Cook wrote: | The bigger question is how would neutrinos change the half life of a nucleus in any case? | The reaction cross section must be very small. | Has Frishbach suggested any mechanism for the change in decay rate? ...At approximately the 29 minute mark of the previously posted video, he makes a rather provocative suggestion: Spin-dependent long range force coupling to neutrinos (and the last question asked after the talk is relevant to that suggestion): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzOOkR3a4vM ... Many of the slides for the presentation can be found here: http://moriond.in2p3.fr/J11/transparents/fischbach.pdf This is rather old stuff, actually. If you head to arXiv and fish out the latest papers authored by Fischbach, you can catch up on latest in the nuclear decay rate situation. I’m not aware of any further suggestions made by this collaboration of researchers. Some further info on possible refutations are touched upon, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N76lx-4fN-g Since this effect has apparently also been seen with Alpha Decay, it has raised more questions concerning suggestions such as Fischbach, et al.’s, above... ... The suggestion of a direct or catalytic effect had been made by Falkenberg back in 2001 (don’t think he’s the first to suggest this): http://redshift.vif.com/JournalFiles/V08NO2PDF/V08N2FAL.pdf The aphelion/perihelion solar neutrino flux variation is about +/- 3.2 or 3.3% and the effect he saw with tritium was +/- 0.37% or about 1/9th the variation. That data was taken in the 1981 timeframe. - Mark Jurich
