Many people here feel bad that they were taken in by Defkalion. For example, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:
I vividly recall the forum BS. Many questions were asked concerning module > testing which they insisted was happening within their lab. Looking back > now I realize that they were shamelessly lying. > You should not be so hard on yourself. When I first heard from them, they seemed legitimate. Maybe they were. People went to visit them. They sent me photos of a well equipped lab. They met with a staff of serious, knowledgeable, hard working young people. Those people are long gone. It seems the whole thing fell apart after Rossi broke the contract. My guess is that he never transferred the technology to them. That's what he said, and I suppose it must be true. Maybe they thought they knew how to make the gadget work without his help, but they did not. The people working in the laboratory seemed legit, but the business arrangements were crazy from the get-go. As far as I know, Rossi broke the contract because they did not pay him the agreed sum. I have heard it was a fantastic amount of money: 100 million Euros. I heard it was predicated on him performing benchmark tests such as a successful test of the 1 MW reactor. Who on earth would promise to pay €100 million before the technology is transferred?!? Who would build the 1 MW reactor when you can barely control a kilowatt reactor? Both Defkalion on and Rossi were making decisions and writing contracts that seemed utterly crazy to me. And amateur. Rossi told me that Defkalion demanded the 1 MW reactor test, and Defkalion told me that was Rossi's idea. I have no idea what to make of it. Anyway, they seemed legitimate for a while, so don't feel bad if you were fooled. Maybe they were legitimate. Without technical data there is no way to judge. Whatever they once were, the latest revelations from Lewan imply that the company now resorts to straight-out fraud. I refer to this statement: '"To obtain this effect it’s necessary to operate two valves in a certain way, so you need to have the intention to do it,' Gamberale told me." David Roberson also wrote: > MY was hard on them in the forum and now I apologize to him/her for > thinking that he was out of line. I thought her questions were appropriate for that forum. The fact that they did not answer was as informative as an answer would be. Silence speaks volumes. MY was reasonable asking questions in the Defkalion forum. She was not reasonable asking those same questions here. No one here speaks for Defkalion. No one here should be held responsible for their actions or their decisions, and no one should have to answer for them. I recall she also made accusations here, that we were patsies for Defkalion. It seems to me it is okay to stay neutral when there is not enough evidence. Even if a claim looks fishy I do not see why I should reach a conclusion one way or the other. I am not in charge of an investment fund. I'm not a policeman. I have the right to my opinion, and the right to no opinion. > DGT still can clear up their name with adequate proof, but I am not > betting upon it at this time. Assuming they have adequate proof, they might have done this any time since they went public. They are now broke, and Defkalion Europe went out of business. If they had experimental data proving their claims surely they would have published it long ago. Anyway as you see in Lewan's report, they do not dispute Gamberale's report: "I called Alexander Xanthoulis and asked for a comment. He didn’t dispute the result of the report but pointed out that the calorimetric set-up at the Milan demo was not made by Defkalion but by Mose. Gamberale confirmed this but explained that the set-up was made according to strict instructions from Defkalion, and that when Mose added some component, such as another independent flow meter or another method for measuring thermal heat output, these additional components were immediately removed by Defkalion personnel without discussions." If they are not swindlers . . . then for some reason they are trying to make themselves look like swindlers, when they do things like this. I get a sense Xanthoulis does not understand the technical issues. He is out of his depth. Wasn't he the one who bragged that they had surreptitiously acquired the technology? Apparently he was wrong. - Jed
