To get an idea about the size of the smallest LENR system possible, the LENR capable Deinococcus radiodurans is a rather large nonmotile bacterium shaped like a red berry has a diameter of about 1.5 to 3.5 µm .
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > I consider the Craven ball system an excellent vehicle to study. It > reminds me of the heating of a radium sample from the past which seemed to > defy the current physics models. Nuclear reactions were not understood at > that time and the conservation of energy appeared violated. > > The question that I want answered is whether or not some form of critical > mass is required before a major amount of energy is released as with > Rossi's device. Must a chain reaction occur before the heat closes the gap > between what Craven sees and what Rossi claims? How linear is the Craven > effect? > > My thoughts as of this time are that magnetic coupling of some nature must > exist before useful energy can be extracted. Spin coupling is a good > candidate for this mechanism so far, but many measurements must be > conducted before this can be established. How the coupling is able to > exhibit positive feedback remains out of reach at the moment. Perhaps the > coupling is a complex combination of sonic motion, magnetic coupling and > heat interacting in some fashion. One day it will become obvious and we > will all wonder why it took so long for us to figure it out. > > I suspect that we need to step back and think more of the system aspects > of the reactions as opposed to concentrating upon a tiny local atomic > reaction. How small can a device be constructed which exhibits LENR? Is > there some threshold size that is between atomic dimensions and 5 > micrometers below which nothing happens? How about the very large scale? > Remember that U235 appears like a normal radioactive metal until it reaches > a critical mass. And, P&F had their lab destroying reaction when they were > using a cube of material that was a centimeter on a side. What would have > happened had they been using one several centimeters along each side? I do > not think these questions have been answered adequately. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:31 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Breaking Symmetry" "What a Waste" and "yes-ether" > > One of the most amazing LENR systems of them all is the Cravens golden > ball system. It is so energy weak, relatively cool, small scale, and gentle > that it is hard to imagine its energy is derived from nuclear processes. > I believe that this system shows the probabilistic quantum mechanical > nature of the LENR nuclear reaction. Low heat level implies a minuscule > nuclear reaction rate in the Craven’s ball. This shows that a LENR system > does not need to achieve a high transition point to produce energy. If a > tipping point is occurring, it is localized down at the nano-level of even > the at the nuclear level. > The magnetic field that drives the Craven system is produced by magnet > dust. This field strength is very weak and could be found ubiquitously in > everyday life. > The LENR reaction behaves probabilistically like quantum mechanical > tunneling where LENR is always possible even when the energy involved is > very feeble and well below any possibly expected threshold. > > > > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: > >> "Symmetry breaking" is a theoretical phenomenon where there are small >> fluctuations acting on a formative system crossing into a critical >> "tipping >> point." The often-invisible influences will decide the whole system's fate >> by determining which branch of a bifurcation is taken. >> >> Symmetry breaking can be a critical factor for LENR theory in the context >> of >> CoE - even if the bifurcation is hidden and even if the branch which is >> taken is the one of extreme low probability. Moreover, the "fluctuation" >> which is responsible can look like "noise." In fact, the term "butterfly >> effect" of Chaos theory, is related to this phenomenon. >> >> One of the most unusual and counter-productive chapters of LENR history >> relates to "Breaking Symmetry" the movie by Keith Johnson, who was a >> brilliant MIT researcher before somehow believing that he was a budding >> Howard Hughes film impresario. The film was a complete failure, and a >> gigantic waste of resources in the context of LENR... except for the title >> ... which deserves more comment in the context of Noether. It is hard to >> rationalize this as anything but silly. >> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1437885/ >> >> The symmetry breaking process for LENR comes into focus when the small >> transitions, the "noise" of the system, is effectively nonrandom, but >> looks >> random. The directed noise will transition a large conservative system >> from >> a disorderly state into an ordered states with anomalous energy in some >> cases. It is a very complex situation, and part of the understanding, or >> lack thereof, goes back to Noether's theory undermining Conservation of >> Energy; and to what is really the inverse of this theory. >> >> For name-phreaks, Noether is a most curious surname - being "no-ether" in >> a >> naïve and incorrect way, since the correct German pronunciation is >> completely unrelated to the written associations, which developed later >> with >> the concept of ether/aether. >> >> More on this curious chapter of LENR later. >> >> We can call it the "yes-ether" theory (Yaether ?), to the extent that >> Dirac's sea is the ether and the gateway to it involves breaking symmetry, >> possibly through application of nanomagnetism. >> >> Jones >> >> >
