At 04:44 pm 13-07-04 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Frank.
>
>>People think of Temperature as an absolute concept.
>>(pun intended) 
>>In other words they think the Kelvin scale with its 
>>Absolute Zero of -273 is the only game in town. 
>>They think that you can't have negative temperatures 
>>and that all temperature have to be positive.



>Not true. If you are describing just the translational
>motion of atoms, the positive temp model applies.
>When you take into account spin, a negative temperature
>model can also apply. This is due to the anisotropic nature
>of spin. For example, we can spin polarize a substance
>in a static magnetic field, wait for the system
>to stabilize, and call that a positive (spin) temperature.
>We then reverse the static field faster than the
>decay rate of the system. Now we have a spin system
>at a negative temperature. This is part of the standard
>physics as taught in university.
>I gather from your post that what I'm describing
>is different from your notion of negative temperature.


Quite correct. It is different. If you read the post 
carefully and look at the data (URL in fist post of 
thread) you will see that I am not referring to that 
kind of negative temperature but to something 
altogether less esoteric.


>But unless the beta-aether is anisotropic, I think
>a positive temperature model would still apply, given
>your examples and my admittedly meager understanding
>of it. 


With great respect, I don't think you have quite 
grasped the point.


>By the way, you talk about this beta aether
>as if it were an old friend, 

She's in her middle thirties and grows more
beautiful by the day.  8-)

 # If you knew Beta, like I know Beta
       Oh! Oh! Oh! What a girl
        There's none so classy
         As this fair lassie,
   Oh! Oh! Holy Moses, what a chassis #

>can you point to some
>basic papers or posts which describe it? 


Sure can - See end of this post. I seem to have 
mislaid my CD with the page scans, but Jones has
copies and I sure he'll be happy to oblige. He's
got a high speed line too.


>Death to the imperialist lackey running dogs of Kelvin!
>(grin).


Absolutely [ROTFL]. I see you've got the right approach
to things.



REFERENCES

GRIMER, F.J. and R.E.HEWITT. The form of the 
stress-strain curve of concrete interpreted 
with a di-phase concept of material behaviour. 
Structure, Solid Mechanics and Engineering Design. 
Proceedings of the Southampton 1969 Civil 
Engineering Conference. (M.Te'eni, Ed.), 
Wiley Interscience, pp 681 - 691, 1972.

CLAYTON, N and F.J.GRIMER. A General Approach 
to the Strength of Materials. Speculations in 
Science and Technology, Vol.1, No.1, pp5 - 13, 
1978.

CLAYTON, N and F.J.GRIMER. The di-phase concept 
with particular reference to concrete. Developments 
in Concrete Technology, Vol.1, F.D.Lydon, ed, 
Applied Science Publishers, England pp.283-318. 

There's also an article by me, "Aether Vacua and 
Cold Fusion" in issue 46 of Infinite Energy.


Cheers

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