At 10:37 am 20-10-04 +0000, you wrote:
>At 05:49 pm 19-10-04 -0500, grimer wrote:

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>Some years ago I had a desultory correspondence with 
>Dr Paul Rowe who was convinced he had evidence that 
>electric discharges in a vacuum could generate hydrogen. 
>Perhaps his stuff is on the web somewhere. Let's see. 
>Google "paul rowe" - 3100 hits.  Mmm...Paul Rowe baritone?..
>Paul Rowe is obviously a common name. 
>Let's add hydrogen - 213 hits - that's more like it. 
>
>Fancy that now! Right at the top of the page.
>
>      ======================================
>      HYDROGEN FROM THE VACUUM? and More.... 
>             by Dr. Paul Rowe  
>      Infinite Energy Magazine  page 79    
>      Issue 17 Dec 1997 - Jan 1998
>      ======================================

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Further googling - "Paul Rowe" hydrogen - turned up the following.


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INE'99 SYMPOSIUM FOR NEW ENERGY AUGUST 27 & 28, 1999, SLC, UTAH

11:30  Paul Rowe's Paper -  "The Rowe Effect and Transmutation"

ABSTRACT:  Hal Fox published a paper of mine which attempted 
to demonstrate that hydrogen gas has been produced in and from 
vacuum.   It included direct quotes from many highly respected 
experimenters, along with results of my own experiments.  
Hal named the transformation of vacuum into hydrogen: 
"the Rowe Effect".  

In subsequent papers 2-3-4, I have proposed that vacuum is not 
a void but a rather a highly concentrated matrix of protons and 
electrons and suggested that the matrix might be Bose-Einstein 
condensed hydrogen.In this speech, I will attempt to show that 
presence of such a matrix is not as unlikely as it seems and 
that neutrons produced in or from such a matrix might cause 
transmutation while avoiding the Coulomb barrier. In the process, 
I will discuss physical phenomena that many scientists have 
forgotten that they can't explain.
================================================================


Now I suggest that it is not "a highly concentrated matrix of 
protons and electrons" but a Beta-atmosphere of materons that 
are being condensed by the intensely high pF Beta atmosphere 
vacua generated by dnL/dTn motion.

Both Ing.Saviour and I have quite independently recognised that 
mass has the dimension of T/L (see http://www.blazelabs.com/) 
and it is evident that materons have "hidden mass".

Just consider this account by D.L.Hotson talking about himself 
in the third person. I have pasted it from Bill Beaty's excellent
web site,


    ==================================================
    "...Unfortunately, he could not resist asking
    awkward questions. His professors taught that
    conservation of mass-energy is the never-violated,
    rock-solid foundation of all physics. In
    'pair-production', a photon of at least 1.022 MeV
    'creates' an electron-positron pair, each with
    0.511 MeV of rest energy, with any excess being
    the momentum of the 'created' pair. So supposedly
    the conservation books balance.
    But the 'created' electron and positron both have
    spin (angular momentum) energy of h/4p. By any
    assumption as to the size of electron or positron,
    this is far more energy than that supplied by the
    photon at 'creation'.

    'Isn't angular momentum energy?'
    he asked a professor.

    'Of course it is. This half-integer spin angular
    momentum is the energy needed by the electron to
    set up a stable standing wave around the proton.
    Thus it is responsible for the Pauli exclusion
    principle, hence for the extension and stability
    of all matter. You could say it is the sole cause
    of the periodic table of elements.'

    'Then where does all this energy come from? How
    can the 'created' electron have something like
    sixteen times more energy than the photon that
    supposedly 'created' it? Isn't this a huge
    violation of your never-violated rock-solid
    foundation of physics?'

    'We regard spin angular momentum as an 'inherent
    property' of electron and positron, not as a
    violation of conservation.'

    'But if it's real energy, where does it come from?'

    'Inherent property' means we don't talk about
    it, and you won't either if you want to pass
    this course.'

    Later, Mr. Hotson was taken aside and told that
    his 'attitude' was disrupting the class, and
    that further, with his 'attitude', there was no
    chance in hell of his completing a graduate
    program in physics, so 'save your money'. He
    ended up at the Sorbonne studying French
    literature and later became a professional
    land surveyor."
    ================================================

I sure some smart Vortexian will be able to calculate 
how many materons are needed to make a proton - or even 
a neutron perhaps, since this will soon decay to a proton 
and an electron.

Cheers

Grimer


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