Edmund Storms writes,

> Personally I do not believe all that is claimed, even in
cold fusion :-).

Instead of "even in cold fusion" some observers might "even"
be inclined to opine "espeically"... as that genius Bob Park
does on a regular basis - but in this case, there is some
reason for me to believe that Szpak et al. are indeed
exactly on-target.

> I have seen such "boulders" on metal samples that clearly
result
> from the environment.

If what Szpak has located in this image were purely a
one-of-a-kind, singularity type of thing, instead of
something which was not uncommon in the work, then yes you
could be right. But I do not think that they would have
taken the time to present it this way, if they did not think
that this feature was *normal* to their expeiment. One must
assume that they took the necessary precautions to avoid
contamination, since they do mention this factor as an
alternative explanation... for the skeptics to fall back on
(they are diplomatic, one should add)...

> The normal environment has all kinds of small
> particles floating in the air, which can land on a sample
and be
> completely unnoticed until after the experiment.

Perhaps this could explain a single instance, or it could
explain abnormally sloppy work, which is hopefully NOT your
implication, I am assuming. It all gets back to whether this
phenomenon is a regular feature of their work or not. If
they said that it is, then I would be inclined to suggest
that a proper resolution of the anomaly would NOT relate to
environmental contamination.

> As you point out, it
> makes no sense for transmutation products to move from
where they are
> produced to form a boulder. This defies the concept of
entropy.

I hope that I wasn't misconstrued on this. My intent may
have been just the opposite...

What is wrong with "defying" the poorly understood concept
of "entropy" anyway? Sure, this experiment defies entropy in
several other ways - for one, in exactly the same way that
LENR defies the concept of entropy. IOW it presents a such a
clear violation, such as hot-nuclear energy itself once
presented, that the violation in itself forces the
pedagogues who believe in "entropy" to go back to the
drawing board and redefine it... to save face, if nothing
else.

Entropy has been already revised more than once, for
instance to NOT inlcude the hot version of nuclear energy -
and now this work, and ZPE also becomes just a further
invitation to revise the 'entropy concept' further to
include a "bulk transmutation" BEC-like effect which can
occur in energy-neutral fashion, and in a rather large
particulates consisting of many atoms. If you have a
BEC-like reaction, it will seldom involve on a few atoms.
Not ot mention that any of regular BEC has entropy violating
issues which have nto been adequately addressed.

I think that you are failing to grasp the critical point
that can possibly explain the Szpak results ... that when a
BEC-like QM reaction occurs at all, it usually IS a bulk
energy-near-neutral type of reaction, not confined to 'pair
of particles' or even a few particles. When you have the QM
wave functions involved, as with the putative bulk reaction
[Pd106 + D --> Cd1098 ---> four Al27 + four  (*e-)] then
this can occur in the normal Pd nanaoparticle as a unit, and
if energy neutral, you do indeed end up with a "boulder"  -
entropy-be-damned.

But of course, one must first buy-into the concept of a
BEC-like reaction.

Jones


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