Hi Mitch. Well I think we can agree, that the bulk properties of water are substantially different than the thin film properties, particularly in this case where the film is about a molecule thick. Just to be sure we're on the same page, I was referring to the conditions at the cathode when the potential is less than breakover for the electrolyte. Perhaps you can post something more about your ideas; I have only a few back issues of that IE magazine and they're from 2001 and back so no luck on the article.
K. -----Original Message----- From: Mitchell Swartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 2:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cold Fusion On A Roll? At 12:59 PM 11/18/2004, Keith Nagel wrote: >Hey Fred. > >Indeed, the ~1/2v drop across the cathode face is sufficient to >crush water molecules flat and reduce their permittivity from ~80 >to ~6. Supercaps would be Superdupercaps if not for this effect. >Huge gradients are the norm at such thin interfacial layers. > >K. FWIW, the molecules do not flatten. And the dielectric constant (the real part of the complex permittivity which you mention) is due to inscription of L-D defects in the oxygen lattice. One also observes this change at higher frequencies and in other water Ice phases where the inscription length of the LD defects shortens. Swartz. M., "Dances with Protons - Ferroelectric Inscriptions in Water/Ice Relevant to Cold Fusion and Some Energy Systems", Infinite Energy, 44, (2002). Dr. Mitchell Swartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
