At 1:39 PM 11/25/4, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
>In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:13:03 -0700:
>Hi,
>[snip]
>>An extraordinary paper was presented at ICCF-10 entitled
>>"Comment On Carbon Production In Deuterium-Metal Systems" by
>>DAN CHICEA, Visiting Research Associate Professor at
>>Portland State.
>>
>>http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ChiceaDcommentonc.pdf
>>
>>The experiment reveals that when titanium, palladium or a
>>combination of them was loaded with deuterium, a
>>considerable amount of carbon was found on the surface of
>>the cathode after many days - merely as a result of high
>>loading. These results suggest that there is a strong
>>correlation between merely achieving a high loading ratio
>>and the appearance of new elements, particularly carbon, on
>>the cathode.
>>
>>How could this be?
>
>Carbon is the lightest element that has a per nucleon binding energy
>equivalent to that of the heaviest metals. In short a rearrangement of
>nucleons can take place without mass to energy conversion.


Another possibility is that the cells are exposed to the atmosphere.  CO2
can thus dissolve into the electrolyte, forming carbolic acid etc.
Carbonium radicals (which are positive) may form at the anode or in
solution, due to the presence of H3O+ there which provides protons.  The Pd
or Ti cathode can then strip the hydrogen off the carbonium radicals,
adsorbing the hydrogen, and leaving the carbon on its surface.  That is a
possible explanation for carbon only though.

Regards,

Horace Heffner          


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