Are they saying the energy required to evaporate the water solution over a certain period time exceeds the electrical input energy over the same period time + the all the energy consumed by all the other processes in the same period of time?
Harry on 12/1/04 9:02 PM, Mike Carrell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jed wrote: > > Here is an ICCF11 paper describing an Ohomori-Mizuno replication: > > Cirillo, D. and V. Iorio. Transmutation of metal at low energy in a confined > plasma in water. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter > Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. > > Quote: > > "Once a stable plasma has been achieved for more than 500 sec., we can > compare the input energy, electrical power, with the quantity of energy > necessary to warm up and evaporate the solution water. Omitted from this > calculation is energy associated with chemical reactions; energy related to > the heating-up and fusion of the tungsten; energy used in expanding gas and > steam leaving the cell; energy lost by thermal and electromagnetic > radiation; and loss of heat through the insulation. Even though this extra > energy is omitted from the calculation, the cell is found to produce more > energy than is being applied." > > That is astounding. Quite a robust result! > ------------------------------------- > MC: This is a very important paper, and should be studied *very* carefully. > 1) Light water is used; 2) Potassium carbonate is the electrolyte; 3) Plasma > is produced in a confined space; 4) Erosion of the tungsten cathode is > observed; 5) Transmutation occurs and 6) Macroscopic excess heat is > produced. > > Many on vortex studiously ignore the work of Mills and BlackLight Power, or > try to demonstrated that Mills' results are "really LENR" and vice versa. I > have maintained that they should be studies separately, although they may be > connected at a deeper level. > > Postassium carbonate will be ionized uder the cell conditions, releasing K+ > ions. There will also be H atoms in the plasma, and these can and do react > to produce very exothermic reactions in which H atoms are reduced to a lower > orbital state. Thus there is no mystery to production of excess heat with > light water. Transmutation is a nuclear reaction and it is **also** > occurring. The source of neutrons in this instance is a real puzzle. The > authors are porperly and understandably puzzled by what they have observed. > I have sent a message to Cirillo alerting him to Mills' work, and to Mills, > alerting him to Cirillo's work. No significant response from either; Mills > had the courtesy to acknowledge the email. > > I should note that a pivtoal experiment by Mills long ago involved an > electrolytic cell with light water, potassium carbonate electrolyte, which > showed instant turn-on and produced excess heat when peopel working with F&P > cells were seeing long loading cycles. Among Mills' posted experiments is a > gas phase cell with a tungsten heater, potassium carbonate and hydrogen, > which produces intense plasmas. These elements are also present in the > Cirillo cell. > > Mike Carrell > > >
