Keith,

After I potted the unit, as I recall, I lost the
effect on all materials.  As metals go, I had tried
little niblets, BBs and rods of copper, aluminum, and
bismuth.  Now I DID NOT try a long rod suspended
horizontally through the holes of a horizontal facing
toroid pair, howevah.  I agree that leakage flux could
be a major artifact.  It makes sense.  I tried to get
a pair of internally polarized NdFeB ring magnets made
once.  (It was an attempt to produce a permanent
magnet version of said "A-Field" or vector potential
toroids)  Turned out wicked good, but there were still
irregular outbreaks of maybe 300 to 500 gauss from the
ring surface here and there, due to uneven-ness of the
magnetizer windings.  So yeah, with hand wound toroids
there is potential for leakage.  I would guess that if
one could up the permeability of the torus material,
leakage would diminish - but do they make such a
ferrite?  Fast yet furious; with low hysteresis, yet
the permeability of "moo" metal?  Moo.

nr

--- Keith Nagel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey Nick.
> 
> I'm still of the opinion that leakage flux is
> the causative agent here, at least for the
> conductive
> material being moved by the coils. I can see
> your explaination would make sense for the lesser
> magnitude effect seen with the non-conductors,
> although I would expect some effect due to the
> electric fields generated by the time changing
> flux. When you say the effect dissapeared when
> you potted the coils, do you mean all effects
> or just the dielectric effect?
> 
> Thanks for the experiment report, BTW.
> 
> K.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Reiter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:47 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: magnetic vector potential
> 
> 
> Gentlemen,
> 
> I think it ws back in about 2000 or so that I came
> across the website of the ATG group that had
> 


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