Ed Storms wrote:
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> John Fields wrote:
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> > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:48:27 -0500, you wrote:
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> > >Dr. Storms wrote: "I think you all are missing the point of the missile
> > >defense system. It
> > >is to defend us from China in 10 years, not NK now."
> > >
> > >Possibly, however the premature deployment will inhibit only the
irrational.
> > >China knows it is ineffective.
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> > And will watch as it's made effective?
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> Yes, because Chine is gaining more by buying the US in contrast to
> taking.  We are giving China the ability to develop its manufacturing
> infrastructure by going into debt to buy its products.  When we run out
> of money in a few more years and need to use military power to keep
> China from taking over countries in its part of the world, we will need
> the missile defense to keep China from implementing a counter threat.
> The world is not what it seems to be because our government no longer
> holds truth in high regard.  The Cold War is not over.

To regard what is happening as a cold war is a misnomer; it is commerce, the
action of a market economy, now being played out on a global scale with an
intensity and speed without precedent in history. The US abandonment of
manufacturing expertise began after WW2 with Deming's visit to Japan and the
introduction of statistical quality control. The knowledge of how to do low
cost, high quality mechanized production is no longer the property of any
country; it can be done anywhere there is the will to do it. Territorial
wars over natural resources are a bit obsolete, but we may see wars over
water in this century. The idea of the US nuking China's commercial
production is a bit absurd.

Anyone with a new awareness of China should get a copy of "1421 The Year
China Discovered America" and also dig into the 1421 website, with Google as
your guide. Also get a copy of "The Genius of China" to get a perspective on
how far China's technology was in advance of Europe's in early times. In the
1400s China dominated its world as the US does now, and set out to bring the
whole world into its tribute system. They launched an immense fleet of
exploration which mapped the world with accurate longitude -- before the
Harrison chronometers -- including the Americas and Antartica. When the
fleets came home they found the emperor deposed and the mandarin bureaucracy
turned inward, erasing a great achievement and setting the stage for China's
decline as a world power.

China and India are awakening to industrial status and the relative
dominance of the US and Europe will wane as these nations adapt our own
discoveries. Toynbee decades ago documented the challenge and response of
governements to a changing world. The war in Iraq is but one episode; it
remains to be seen how all this plays out. Flailing about and demonizing
Bush, Islam, or "THEM" of any color or persuasion will not help; it only
blinds the protester. Remember that all this ebb and flow of economic
fortune has played out in the US since our founding and development as the
largest free market economy in the world. It is now gone global, and there
is no going back; the US has not been self sufficient sine the '30s. One of
the basic charactersitics of humans is to divide the world into US and THEM
on any pretext.

Meanwhile remember the Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times".

Mike Carrell





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