Last I checked this is not a political forum.  While I don't necessarily
mind getting off topic from time to time, it is a waste of everyone's
bandwidth when any thread lacks a foundation of facts or historical context.

While far from terribly complete, totally objective, or 100% accurate this
book may be of some interest to those that think they understand everything
about global politics:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0452284058/qid=1105474018/sr=1
-3/ref=sr_1_3/102-1684916-9524933?v=glance&s=books

If nothing else, it will help substantiate expressed opinions so that they
are less likely to be immediately dismissed as ignorant ramblings.

-steck






-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Funny comments




"Give me liberty, or give me death!" -- Patrick Henry


G.W. Bush's motto is:

"Give them liberty, or give them death!"

Harry





Harry

leaking pen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> where did this come from?  and take leadership roles?  please, these
> guys coming back are making vietnam vets look like ex cops.  its a new
> generation of homeless we're creating.  and i find it funny that you
> talk of the lies of one president, without discussing the lies of the
> other.  one lie was about a personal happenstance, one has caused the
> death of over 1000 americans, and the loss of limb of another 10k, and
> the death of 150k iraqis.
>
> sorry, id prefer the "hippy" lies.
>
>
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:39:15 -0600, RC Macaulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The Red feet never lie, the green feet never tell the truth. A green foot
>> need not give any answer, or he may give an answer in the form of a
question
>> such as.. why do you ask?.. or any number of others.. A question may be a
>> method of shielding a lie.
>>
>> A skilled green foot, may in a trial courtroom setting ( or congressional
>> hearing  or a University policy meeting) can tell the truth nine
different
>> ways without lying.
>>
>> My purpose in the start of the thread was a quick study in an ethics
theme
>> regarding writing quadradic computing software for ethics. One of the
most
>> profound questions ever posed in recorded history on the subject was
asked
>> of Jesus by Pilate.. " what is truth"?  Was he lying and knew the truth,
or
>> was it because he didn't know?
>>
>> Watching our government conduct business and the war in Iraq begs the
>> question.. what happens when our soldiers return,, gain maturity and take
>> leadership roles? We see the results of the hippy generation of the
Vietnam
>> era personified by Clinton. Will a code of ethics be functional for the
>> emerging body of youth ? Or will they all become like skilled green feet
?
>> Basic and applied research depends on addressing questions of this
nature...
>> i.e hot vs cold fusion.
>>
>> Richard
>


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