Last I checked this is not a political forum. While I don't necessarily mind getting off topic from time to time, it is a waste of everyone's bandwidth when any thread lacks a foundation of facts or historical context.
While far from terribly complete, totally objective, or 100% accurate this book may be of some interest to those that think they understand everything about global politics: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0452284058/qid=1105474018/sr=1 -3/ref=sr_1_3/102-1684916-9524933?v=glance&s=books If nothing else, it will help substantiate expressed opinions so that they are less likely to be immediately dismissed as ignorant ramblings. -steck -----Original Message----- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Funny comments "Give me liberty, or give me death!" -- Patrick Henry G.W. Bush's motto is: "Give them liberty, or give them death!" Harry Harry leaking pen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > where did this come from? and take leadership roles? please, these > guys coming back are making vietnam vets look like ex cops. its a new > generation of homeless we're creating. and i find it funny that you > talk of the lies of one president, without discussing the lies of the > other. one lie was about a personal happenstance, one has caused the > death of over 1000 americans, and the loss of limb of another 10k, and > the death of 150k iraqis. > > sorry, id prefer the "hippy" lies. > > > On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:39:15 -0600, RC Macaulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The Red feet never lie, the green feet never tell the truth. A green foot >> need not give any answer, or he may give an answer in the form of a question >> such as.. why do you ask?.. or any number of others.. A question may be a >> method of shielding a lie. >> >> A skilled green foot, may in a trial courtroom setting ( or congressional >> hearing or a University policy meeting) can tell the truth nine different >> ways without lying. >> >> My purpose in the start of the thread was a quick study in an ethics theme >> regarding writing quadradic computing software for ethics. One of the most >> profound questions ever posed in recorded history on the subject was asked >> of Jesus by Pilate.. " what is truth"? Was he lying and knew the truth, or >> was it because he didn't know? >> >> Watching our government conduct business and the war in Iraq begs the >> question.. what happens when our soldiers return,, gain maturity and take >> leadership roles? We see the results of the hippy generation of the Vietnam >> era personified by Clinton. Will a code of ethics be functional for the >> emerging body of youth ? Or will they all become like skilled green feet ? >> Basic and applied research depends on addressing questions of this nature... >> i.e hot vs cold fusion. >> >> Richard > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.10 - Release Date: 10-Jan-05

