Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Fred, > > > What's causing the vapor pressure of Dry or Water Ice at > those low temperatures? > > Beta-aether > Either that or 3 K radiation. > > > http://radio.weblogs.com/0101365/2003/09/04.html > > "According to the above chart, carbon dioxide of > about -122°C will have a vapor pressure of 7.5 mmHg, so the > solid carbon dioxide that is vaporizing near the south pole > should be at a temperature slightly greater than -122°C, > not -159°C as previously stated." > > > Do humming birds carry ice packs, Jones? :-) > > No, but they could possibly be exploiting beta-aether > (Casimir) effects ;-} > Through CO2 or H2O in their systems? > > If one could get any huge amount of inert material into > earth orbit easily, or collect it over time in low earth > orbit (IOW "harvest" it with drone satellites over months or > years) , then perhaps you would not use simple vapor > pressure and solar as your ultimate means of propulsion. > Besides you would be harvesting lots of H2 and ozone anyway, > which is not inert. So I cannot see the usefulness of what > you are proposing > At 200 Joule/gram sublimation energy a square meter surface of Dry Ice in space kicks off 6.5 grams of CO2 molecules per second at a velocity of about 325 meters per second at 1.3 KW/meter^2 solar or CF photon insolation.That translates to a significant Specific Impulse (isp). Water Ice sublimation gives much less isp due to the higher sublimation energy requirement and lower molecular weight.. > Frederick > Yet, to stick with the premise, if one had only dry ice to > exploit, then one might get much more energy per unit weight > exploiting the Bridgman effect, another beta-aether effect, > which is seen in many solid insulators under uniaxial > compression at high pressures. The Bridgman effect is > powerful enough to produce x-rays, for instance, in inert > materials such as water ice, using only applied pressure. > > However to get that applied pressure, one might initially > use solar-induced vapor pressure plus mechanical leverage in > order to achieve the precursor pressure for the Bridgman > effect in a nozzle type rocket exhaust. This effect is > accompanied by shock waves and high-speed (2 km/s) ejection > of a destructed microdispersed substance beyond the > compression system. Without using the terminology of > "aether," (if you find that to be a problem) it can be said > that this phenomenon evolves when the elastic energy of a > strongly compressed body converts into the mechanical work, > resulting in an ultrahigh-speed volume relief after the > system has reached certain critical parameters. The ejecta > can be focused easily, and the whole setup could possibly be > OU to the extent that the Casimir effect is OU. In my > somewhat non-standard (or anti-semantic, as Nick says) > vocabulary, the Casimir effect is a beta-aether effect. > > At one time, I was convinced that this effect was the answer > to solving earthly energy needs, and could be applied to an > internal combustion engine. A few years back I posted on > positive results obtained with simple experiments, but the > scheme went nowhere, and none of the Generals was knocking > at my door (GM GE etc). Because of the necessity of > refrigeration (lots of it), the scheme may not appear all > that interesting for power on earth, especailly in hotter > climates, but in space, it could work. And if gasoline > reaches double what it is now, but the price of electricity > remains comparatively lower, then I think that an > ice-powered engine (double ICE) is economically feasible. > > It would involve using home power to produce a lot of super > chilled water as your "fuel" but the rate of consumption > might end up being gallons per mile instead of miles per > gallon. > > But when gasoline skyrockets in the next few years... IF > robust OU from other sources or robust LENR does not appear > first, which I expect it will, then we will see if Percy and > Frank can come to the rescue. > > Jones >
