yeah, i remember that bit.  iirc, he was seriously underestimating the
force of the blast and velocity of the shrapnel thats ACTUALLY
encountered by those forces hit by ied's.

and im agreed here.  this is bunk.  a beam of light that kills things,
makes walls transparent...   from a dream...

cmon, he calls the main unit the "centrifuge" and it includes lights
and lasers.  please.  looking at one of those pictures, it looks like
his sighting barell is a freaking tp tube.  wont even say what he
calls the principle under which it works.  not a chance.  anyone who
has created a new "law of physics" loves nothing more than naming the
principles, and expounding on what they are and how they work without
ever actually saying anything.  i call shenanigans.

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:42:45 -0500, Harry Veeder
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A few months ago he appeared on discovery channel's Daily Planet
> demonstrating an unique amour to protect vehicles against blasts from road
> side bombs. He said he did this because he was concerned for his brother's
> safety who is in the military and serving in Afghanistan. I think a
> representative from the Canadian military was present at the demo.
> 
> Harry
> 
> Keith Nagel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hi Bill & Mike,
> >
> > He has three Canadian applications regarding the bear suit (eh?)
> >
> > CA2263028    Protective Guard
> > CA2260549    Protective Helmet
> > CA2233107    Protective Apparel
> >
> > These are registered to
> >
> > TroySport Incorporated
> >
> > Which presumably is Troy James Hurtubise's company.
> >
> > Here's the inpadoc data.
> >
> > ////////////////////////////////////////
> > Legal status (INPADOC) of
> > CA F 2263028 A (Patent of invention)
> > PRS Date :  2003/04/03
> > PRS Code :  FZDE
> > Code Expl.:  - DEAD
> > EFFECTIVE DATE:  20020225
> >
> > CA F 2260549 A (Patent of invention)
> > PRS Date :  2003/04/03
> > PRS Code :  FZDE
> > Code Expl.:  - DEAD
> > EFFECTIVE DATE:  20020201
> >
> > CA F 2233107 A (Patent of invention)
> > PRS Date :  2003/04/03
> > PRS Code :  FZDE
> > Code Expl.:  - DEAD
> > EFFECTIVE DATE:  20010628
> > ////////////////////////////////////////
> >
> > This means all three applications were abandoned
> > by the applicant, so no patent was granted.
> > Troysport has no web presence that I could
> > discern. I couldn't find any applications
> > regarding the flame paste, you might try
> > sleuthing that one.
> >
> > As always, this
> >
> > http://www.ipdiscover.com
> >
> > and this
> >
> > http://www.classclarify.com
> >
> > are recommended for more in-depth research.
> >
> > K.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:17 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Dream-inspired fringe-science invention
> >
> >
> >
> > I dunno, Bill.  This guy's grizzly-proof suit and something called "fire
> > paste" seem to work.  The weird suit in the background of
> > the photo reminded me that I'd seen this guy's stuff on the Discovery 
> > Channel,
> > so I googled his name and came up with:
> >
> > http://www.improb.com/news/2003/oct/troy-flamerproof.html
> >
> > I have to agree.  It seems like total B.S.  But you have to ask why somebody
> > would go to all that trouble to dupe some investors out
> > of a few tens of thousands of dollars, escpecially an inventor with a track
> > record.  Of course they were from....France..., Remulac,
> > maybe.
> >
> > M.
> >
> >>> Bill wrote:
> >
> > Here's something from a basement inventor:  weird EM effect makes solids
> > transparent, ruins electronics, kills goldfish?
> >
> > http://www.baytoday.ca/content/news/details.asp?c=6657
> >
> >
> > http://www.baytoday.ca/content/news/gallery.asp?c=6657&Title=%3Cb%3EHurtubise+
> > says+invention+sees+through+walls%2DBayToday%2Eca+excl
> > usive%3C%2Fb%3E
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The few experiences I've had with these things lead me to conclude that
> > it's a hoax.
> >
> > The thing is horribly complicated and employs unknown principles... and
> > yet it WORKS?  How the hell would he debug such a beast if (when) it
> > didn't work when first turned on?  That's a dead giveaway.  Imagine trying
> > to build a laser or computer or TV set in 1905 from information received
> > in a dream.  Or imagine one person in 1905 trying to make a copy of these
> > devices, even with the actual device in front of them to work from.
> > Without continuing and extremely detailed step-by-step guidance, there are
> > many thousands of critical mistakes possible in a complicated system, any
> > one of which would screw up the function.
> >
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