--- On Wed 02/16, Jones Beene < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

> Had gasoline prices been this high a decade ago, we would
> probably already have liquid-air hybrids on the road today,
> but not with the cryo-air produced aboard the vehicle
> itself- that is very wasteful. A Dewar tank is sufficient
> for CA produced elsewhere, ideally using wind energy - at
> least that is my contention until good evidence arrives that
> this is not the best use for wind energy.

Inflation adjusted, gasoline prices were higher in the 80s.
However, that's neither here nor there.  I think world events
are making this a more urgent issue.

What I would like to know, if you can tell us, what is the 
actual available energy in a kg of liquid air used in a piston
engine?  Obviously, it could be a turbine engine as well, but
how much energy do we get?

By the way Keith, I can speak from personal experience that
a 20 gallon LN2 spill is no big deal.  Before I acquired
cryo-pumps and turbomolecular pumps I use to use a lot of LN2
and I'm sorry to report I was quite careless with it.  The 
only real danger in a confined space is that it can drive away
all the available oxygen and you can pass out or die from
oxygen deprivation.  It's not unpleasant either.  You're
body's suffocation response is from build up of CO2 rather
than lack of oxygen.  I'd much rather that than than burning
in a hydrogen fire.  I don't know if liquid air has the same
composition as gaseous air, but if it does, even that danger
won't exist.

M.

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