Some miscellaneous thoughts about CO2 harvesting and other hydrogen energy
transporting issues follow.

The arctic and antarctic may be good places to harvest CO2 directly from
the atmosphere.  Lots of wind in places there, and (seasonally)
temperatures almost low enough to condense CO2 directly from the
atmosphere.  CO2 solidifies at -72.5 deg. C., or -98.5 deg. F.  CO2 in this
solid dry ice form could be stored in cold storage for use in warmer
months.  For -56.6 at 5.2 atm. The atmosphere is only 0.05 percent CO2 by
weight, 0.03 percent by volume  This means about 3300 m^3 has to be passed
through a CO2 condenser to obtain a single m^3 of CO2.  If the CO2 is to be
gassified for pipeline transport then all the cooling/heating can be
accomplished mostly by heat exchange, but the process is still expensive
due to the volumes involved.

An alternative, especially in warm weather, might be to use CO2 solvents or
adsorbers (e.g. triethylene glycol, propylene carbonate, Diglycolamine,
monoethylamine or diethanolamine) to scrub the CO2 out of the air.  Again a
large air flow must be sustained, and energy is required to release the CO2
once dissolved or adsorbed.

Another approach might be to mine the ocean or ocean floor for carbonaceous
material.  This would be bad in the sense that the CO2 is already
sequestered, but balance could be obtained by fertilizing the ocean with
iron in the mined areas in order to increase the rate of carbon
sequestration.  Recently sequestered carbon obtained by farming is really a
renewable resource.

Growing carbon rich crops is an angle, but it depletes the soil and
requires ammonia based furtilizers, which are also hydrogen products, but
products that energy from windmills could readily help produce.  There is
plenty of nitrogen to be had from the atmosphere, which can be combined
with hydrogen to make ammonia.

This then points out a possible alternative method of shipping hydrogen.
Ammonia (NH3) can be produced at a windfarm and transported by tanker ship
to a destination where a nitrogen stripping plant is used to produce the
hydrogen.  This would get the hydrogen to distant world markets, and would
aid in the production of furtilizers there.  Once the nitrogen is stripped
and returned to the atmosphere, the hydrogen can be piped or used directly
for energy production.  There is a much higher danger associated with
ammonia vs methanol, due to its toxicity, but this can probably safely be
managed for tanker ships unloading at the end of long unloading piers. The
problem remaining then is the energy cost of nitrogen stripping from the
ammonia when hydrogen is needed.

Perhaps ammonia can be used to make a useful liquid fuel, like hydrazine,
though that would not be a safe choice.

Regards,

Horace Heffner          


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