Excellent Fred,

Couldn't have said it better myself ;-)

To confirm this thinking as accurate, I put in a call to
Central Services last night.

Unfortunately, neither Harry nor Dr. G were in at the moment
(they have never been "in") but a call-back was promised by
the switchboard operator  "Ernestine," ... who sounded
vaguely familiar and so oversexed that I had to ask for her
number. She said, "don't worry, honey, any number will do,
kind of like those theories you and Fred are tossing
around." Damn... I was thinking, just what I need - another
sneaky broad listening-in... and a mind-reader to boot, I'll
never call her back.

In the mean time, and back to being serious, or was that
Sirius, Toto... arf...

...there is already some really well-developed ZPE/Dirac
theory behind this idea of cryogenic mass-gain. Yesterday, I
asked the real Wizard, the person who I consider above all
others in doctoral level physics to be the expert on ZPE,
Dirac's sea, the epo field, and related subjects, that being
Donald Hotson, about this possibility.

Unlike Puthoff, Sarfatti, Haisch, Rueda, etc Don can bring
his thinking, and Dirac's mathematics, down to earth in
understandable English. Actually Puthoff 'can' do this as
well, but seldom does. Donald's writing style is so clear
and logical, that one often scarcely realizes how deep into
a precise understanding of complex math that he can take
you. His Dirac articles are published in 'Infinite Energy'
issues 43 and 44, available at :
www.infinite-energy.com
www.openseti.org.
This broadening of Dirac by Hotson is the only causal,
*direct-contact model* of the EM field with ZPE which is out
there, at least in accessible non-mathematical form.

I hope that DH will consider the possibility of Robert
Forward's ideas about cryogenic mass-pumping in light of the
epo field and get back to me with some details to share.
Recently, he sent the most brilliant post that has ever
appeared on HSG, and got not a single response. Not
surprising on that forum, where everybody has such a
specialized agenda, most of that agenda being to share some
of their negativism about Mills' theory. Dr. Don has the
ability to overwhelm with logic skeptics PhDs like
Zimmerman, who are always looking for the "chink in the
armor" but DH is more than their intellectual equal when it
comes to his specialty.

I will quote one paragraph from Donald Hotson's recent HSG
post, which is showing up on other free-energy forums, and
will ask his permission to include the whole post and other
documentation from his IE article, in a later later vortex
posting:

"My proposed solution requires but a single, large
assumption: that the Dirac equation means what it says, not
what QED has misinterpreted it to say. Dirac's equation has
four roots: it calls for electrons and positrons of positive
energy, and electrons and positrons (or at least + and -
charges) of negative energy. Adopting a kinetic definition
of energy gives an unequivocal answer to the question 'what
is negative energy?' In this definition, almost mandated by
the Lorentz relationships, energy is the motion of charges;
mass is a harmonic (standing wave) motion of charges."

As an executive summary of how this could possibly fit in to
Robert Forward's thinking about mass-gain at low
temperature, one must realize that the epo field itself IS
both real and close-by, and is itself a coherent BEC, and
sits at a few degrees K in a hidden lattice all around us in
another close dimension. When any normal matter gets close
to this interface between our reality and Dirac's epo
dominated sea, either by temperature or frequency resonance,
then over time, that material will experience mass gain to
the extent that there is "room" in that element in QM terms.
This is why certain elements, like tin or antimony, or
certain molecules like water, might work far better than
others as they express an allotropic or polymorphic "gap" at
low temperature, such that there is room for ZPE pumping.
This is probably the mechaism behind superconductivity as
well where the mass gain is to the Cooper pair adn seves as
binding energy for the paring.

More later,

Jones


> Recycled Energy :

> The Papp engine:

> Issue #51 of Infinite-Energy September/October 2003
Gene Mallove was Slain May 14, 2004.

>
http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue51/papp.html
>
> As far-fetched as this sounds, there might be something to
it.
> My recent delving into Zero Point Energy (ZPE) and the
Casimir Effect
> where space itself (from which our Universe was born) can
at low, or temperatures
> approaching absolute zero, alter the mass/energy of
atoms/molecules such that
> when they are suddenly brought to higher temperatures they
"dump" energy
> far in excess of that required to heat or cool them as
their mass/energy re-adjusts.
>
> The so-called "3 K Radiation" from throughout space
indicates that there
> could be planet-sized objects WIMPS etc., at near absolute
zero out there.
> Also the1908 Tunguska event might have been a large
"snowball" from space (or Hell?) that exploded
> in that area as it released this stored-up energy as it
came through the atmosphere.
>
> Frederick
>
> http://www.webelements.com/
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A2524493
>
> The Inversion Temperature:
> " the 'normal' effect of cooling when a gas expands takes
place below that temperature, above that temperature it
heats under expansion."
> Gas                 Inversion Temp Deg K
> Space                     0-3
> Helium                    51
> Hydrogen              205
> Neon                      242
> Nitrogen                621
> Argon                     723
> Krypton                  727
> Oxygen                  893
> Xenon                  1427
>
> Zero Deg C  =     272 Deg K
> Zero Deg F  =     255 Deg K


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