The discussion of replication of the PAGD technology is getting a bit wild. All I have said is that the efforts at replication by Jeff contain gross errors. There may be efforts by others which have similar mistakes. It does not follow that you have to do a war dance in a pointed hat to make it work, anymore than this was true in the early days of CF when the magic formula seemed so elusive. When someone follows the recipe in the patents, and the circuits given, and calibration means shown, and explores the glow discharge range indicated, and fails to see the PAGD discharge, then one can start mumbling about mysteries. It one sees the discharge, plenty of mysterious mumbling will follow. So far as I know no one has done this, they all do something different, and then talk about failure.
To this point is Ed Storm's position that the effect originates in certain deposits on the surfaces of cathodes and loading of bulk palladium is irrelevant. Ed has not yet identified these, or shown how to make lots of cathodes. Mike Carrell

