At 2:33 PM 4/4/5, John Berry wrote:

>Even if Ampere is correct as long as there is displacement current the
>magnetic force from the vacuum displacement current would push on the
>rail in a longitudinal manner.
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>By having the conductors diverge a bit more thrust might be created, but
>clearly the angle shown here is too steep.


You might want to check out US Pat. 5,142,861, by Schlicher et al.  Column
8 line 12, states: "For two dimensional loop antennas, the integration of
all forces around the conductor path equals zero.  In three dimensions,
this is not necesarily the case."

Schlicher's predicted a force of 0.1 N to 0.4 N for 1000 amps for his
conical version of the above.  However, his analysis has errors.  Also,
NASA checked it out, or something similar, if I recall correctly.

It is still ineresting Schlicher's proposed use of low temperature aluminum
instead of a superconductor.  Superconductor effects can thus be ignored or
avoided, unless of utility.  Zero power input is of great utility though,
so a device that works in superconducting mode would be a huge plus.
Unfortunately, the main problem is the flawed force analysis.

I'll try to make a post you may find more relevant and interesting under
the name "Coaxial Capacitor Thrustor."  It is a design similar to what you
suggest, but enhanced to 3d, and having other embellishements that I
proposed in a collaboration some years ago.  It didn't go anwwhere, due I
think, to NASA's prior negative results in this arena.

Regards,

Horace Heffner          


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