At 6:04 AM 4/6/5, John Berry wrote:

>Actually at this moment, I'm not quite sure why two hoop coils in
>attraction at an angle to each other shouldn't create a unidirectional
>force if the forces are at right angles, or indeed why two permanent
>magnets in attraction also at an angle wouldn't create the same effect.
>Though I can't believe this is the case, either I'm missing something or
>Ampere was correct, which I think he was. (or both)
>
>
>O     ^     O
> \         /
>  \ N   S /
> S \     / N
>    \   /
>     O O
>
>Hoop coil diagram.


You seem to be consumed by the utter confusion that results from reading
the arcane or incorrect word usage and concepts that are contained in
confused web postings of amatures like myself.  8^)

There is an enormous body of evidence that says the forces between
permanent magnets, or even electromagnets like hoop coils, are
conservative.  It appears you are confusing torque with net linear force.
Also, you might be interested to know that I have done FEA models of
configurations very similar to the above, as well as actual torsion beam
tests of them, and there is no net linear force.

Regards,

Horace Heffner          


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