Hey Keith, set up a paypal account for donations.  This might be a rag-tag
group, but I bet $20 here and there from the active and lurkers alike would
give you some operating capital with no strings attached.

Personally I like to understand what I am funding before I elect to give up
my lunch budget for it.  Post a business plan.  Post quarterly updates and
progress reports.  If it seems worthwhile and lets me fanaticize about one
day being able to give both the bastards at ComEd and Nicor the bird I WANT
IT.  Lord knows I am not able to do it in MY basement...

-j


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Nagel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Another Challenge/ was RE: Gas Tax


Hi Horace,

Well, lets see. I've spent a better part of my adult life trying
to "do" something about this. Early on, my mentor and I founded
a 501(c)(3) to fund our work in the new energy technologies. The
response from donors was "this is commercial, go to the VC's".
The response from the VC's were, "what can you do by next quarter?"
Needless to say, but for an angel or two, it was hardly worth the
airplane tickets.

So I go to Wall St, and do the corporate thing for a few years
to build a war chest. The 90's were a good time for that you know,
after the "disastrous" leadership of Clinton, an 8 year economic
boom made some actual money float around, and you
saw that reflected in the people here and the discussion. So I
could fund my own work, and things progressed. Sadly, the last
5 years of "fiscally sound" policy of our current leaders has
produced an unending war for oil, an economy still in the toilet, with
no signs of real recovery ( and did any of you really believe
that trickle down theory crap? Even Reagan's advisors backed away
from that one. ) Can't make much progress when the fishing hole
is drying up, you know. Let's add to this, that real success is
going to mean _giving_ the results away to the very people who
created this debacle, and you can see the problem.

Look, about 4 feet from where I sit writing software, a mountain of lab
equipment and technology sits largely idle. Sure, it's a passion
of mine, nothing is going to stop me from working, but the
occasional stolen hours do not add up to much by each years end.
The truly pathetic thing is how little money it takes to keep
the work going, for the cost some of my wealthy friends
spend on golf course memberships I could be doing this full time and
making real progress. But the ugly truth is, NO ONE WANTS THIS. Let that
one sink in, Horace. Everyone pays lips service, but when
it comes right down to it, NO ONE WANTS THIS. You can't have
a society based on selfishness and greed and expect much else.

Posting grandiose plans for publicly funded energy research is
just so much crap, frankly. I know you mean well, but do you
think that what you are saying hasn't been said by 100's before
you? Common sense and a recitation of the facts is not going
to get the job done. Forget the politicians,
they're too busy jamming feeding tubes down vegetables throats
fighting to impress Thomas Malloy for his vote. Don't look to
these folks for the answer, or even benign neglect. They're
also part of the problem.

I don't expect any handouts. I do what I do because it's my passion,
I love to do research. And if someone believes that the future
can be better and that parting with some pocket change can
make it happen, I'll crank up another 501(c)(3) and things will
in fact happen again. For now, it's the snails pace and ~100 troops a month
dead in the desert. Sorry for ranting, but perhaps it's time
for some of these truths to be uttered in public. It's not like
I have anything to lose, 'cos it's not like anyone's got the
balls to put some money on the table for this stuff.

Some folks say that individuals can't make a difference. Bullshit.
Individuals are the _only_ ones that ever make a difference.

K.



-----Original Message-----
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 2:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Gas Tax


When are people going to stop complaining and arguing and actually DO
SOMETHING about energy.  The following was a reasonable starting point when
posted here over two years ago, and it is still a good way to use the
modest gas tax proposed, or even a much larger gas tax, which is now much
more appropriate as precious years have been frittered away and the
situation is much worse:

   <http://tinyurl.com/7eqju>

Regards,

Horace Heffner




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