--- Keith Nagel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> How much energy is required to push the ball back to
> the starting position? It's trivial to redirect the
> ball, recovering the kinetic energy. That's your
> input energy. Pushing the ball under the ramp will
> no doubt take some energy. Making the ball go
> around the ramp in a big loop will also take energy,
> although this may not be as clear or easy to
> measure as the first method. Start with the
> first method, and experimentally determine the
> energy.

Hi Keith,

The first job is to adjust the ramp parameters until
the measurement system indicates the best final exit
KE. Then take the magnets away, place the ball at the
top of the exit and let it drop. If it can't make it
back to the lower starting place then either you need
to reduce frictional losses or increase the lift. 

Anyway once you know you can get a rollaround without
the magnets, replace them and again adjust the exit
position for the best final KE that is similiar to the
calculated KE from a magnetless drop.

You should then be able to observe a closed loop demo.
I'm working on a simple to build / replicate single
ramp, ball return system and expect to post a video in
the next week or so.


Now it's just engineering effort, time and money,
Greg

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