In reply to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'s message of Tue, 10 May 2005 17:02:40 -0400: Hi Steven, [snip] >It has been theorized that the electron circling the hydrino's proton nucleus >might eventually transform the nucleus into a neutron if there have been a >sufficient number of fractional collapses of the orbital shell. I
This doesn't happen. > believe this may occur somewhere around 127 fractional collapses where the > electron's velocity would eventually approach the speed of light. That number is 137 BTW, not 127. 137 is approximately the inverse of the fine structure constant. >Curiously, things seem to get a little fuzzy in regards to what CQM predicts >is the fate of hydrinos that manage to attain this highly refined fractional >ground state. Even Mills, I gather, has not cared to speculate too deeply on >this possibility in his CQM publications, at least not publicly. More or less true, this is rarely covered in great depth. Primarily because the situation doesn't arise in reality IMO. > >Does anyone know how much TOTAL ENERGY is theorized to be released by the >collapsing orbital shell of the electron belonging to a hydrino as it >approaches the ultimate speed of light through approximately 127 fractional >transitions? Does it approach the amount of energy that might be released by, >say, a neutron decaying back into a proton, electron, and EM radiation? According to Mills formulae, it is an amount of energy exactly equal to half an electron mass, i.e. 255499 eV. > >The reason I ask this is I have often wondered WHERE the source of all this >released hydrino energy comes from. Yes, yes, I know it's supposed to come >from the collapsing state of the electron's orbital shell as it finds a new >"ground" state. I believe Mills has let it be known that he more or less believes that it comes from the mass of the proton. Personally, I think it comes partly from the mass of the proton, and partly from the mass of the electron, with the most likely distribution being half-and-half (see also my web page at http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/New-hydrogen.html ). > >But here's my point: A free standing neutron has a half life of approximately >11 minutes, give or take a minute. As I understand it the neutron eventually >"decays" back into a proton by releasing an electron along with some EM >radiation. That would mean WE'RE RIGHT BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED IN THE FIRST >PLACE! Which is precisely why the original premise (that an ultimately shrunken hydrino collapses to a neutron) must be wrong. >That would mean the entire amount of energy extracted from a hydrogen atom >could be repeated infinitely as a typical hydrogen atom is transformed into >hydrino, and then into neutron, and then finally as it decays back into a >proton - electron pair (plus some EM radiation) to make another hydrogen atom. Indeed it would, if the original premise were true. > >There is something disturbingly circuitous about the endless production of >energy and/or the transformation of matter. Such "disturbances" are usually a strong sign that the assumptions are wrong. ;) [snip] >I may be wrong on this point, but I suspect Dr. Mills CQM theories would not >subscribe to this kind of a super-universe construct as the explanation as to >where all this seemingly limitless energy would come from. Indeed, but that's because it doesn't exist to start with. The total mass of a:- neutron = 939.5656 MeV ground state hydrogen atom = 938.7835 MeV maximally shrunken hydrino = 938.5280 MeV As you can see, it's even harder for a hydrino to turn into a neutron than it is for a hydrogen atom to turn into a neutron. Now getting back to the final fate of hydrinos. In all likelihood, they fuse with other nuclei, before they reach the final ground state, which is why the question essentially doesn't arise in reality. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk All SPAM goes in the trash unread.
