Re: Cavitation neutrons - was: Blast from the Past -

[Jones Beene]

At ICCF10, Dash and Chicea presented a possible answer to this 
anomaly in "Effects Of Hydrogen Loading By Aqueous Electrolysis On 
Radioactivity Of Uranium" when they reported that simple aqueous 
electrolytic co-deposition of hydrogen with uranium caused 
significant increased rates of radioactive decay of the uranium - 
no fusion or fission required - just increased decay.

Now if simple loading **without any other power source** will 
increase the rate of decay, then the addition of the cavitation 
could possibly throw the system into a much more active regime.

Had Knuke been using a steel chamber, rather than plexiglass, the 
energy of the x-rays would possibly not have caused his symptons, 
as these x-rays are generally not the higher energy variety seen 
in actual fission, and would have been largely shielded by steel.

Knuke's experiment begs to be replicated in safe conditions, using 
a steel chamber with a port or thin window for monitoring 
radiation.

Thorium, which can be obtained legally in many forms, should work 
just as well since we are dealing with enhanced decay, and not 
fissile reactions. There are actually quite a few reoprts on this 
anomaly in the literature with electrolysis, but of course the 
fear is that it could be done irresponsibly.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: RC Macaulay

Ron,
The cavitation products made by Hydro dynamics Inc. apparently 
differ from the device used by Knuke.  Dr. M.W Youds website has a 
vortex device that may be closer to what Knuke worked with. Youds 
speculated some " events' could occur that may be  what happened 
to Knuke. We keep a gieger counter handy when testing water vortex 
research devices at rotational speed above 3450 RPM.

Richard
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ron Wormus
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: Cavitation neutrons - was: Blast from the Past -

Well I can't answer either of your queries but heres a Co selling 
a commerical version of Knukes device.

http://www.hydrodynamics.com/index.htm
--On Monday, May 16, 2005 5:29 PM -0400 revtec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

The silence is deafening. I have been waiting impatiently for 
Jones
or someone to respond to these posts by Knuke and speculate on 
how a
home brew cavitating turbine, spiked with mere traces of 
fissionable
material, can within five seconds of operation deliver a near 
lethal
dose of radiation! Dosn't this level of performance makes the 
Huffman
machine the Mother of all LENR devices? Someone more skilled 
than I
in the "art of duplicating" needs to check this out!

Is the silence on the subject due to the fact that every Vortex
member with facilities is doing just that?
Jeff
P.S. I at least thought someone might imply that the account was
impossible and then back up their position with some 
"unasailable"
theorizing.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Huffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: Cavitation neutrons - was: Blast from the Past -


Moin Jeff.
The runaway events happened on the first model that I built. I 
did
these
runs
in my kitchen less than a foot away from these radioactive 
tiles,
but I
had
no clue that they were radioactive until later. While trying to 
get
a subsequent model to do the runaway thing again, I came up 
with the
crazy
idea
of lacing the water, thinking that it may have played a roll. I
used the geiger counter quite a bit while wiping down the 
tiles, but
didn't turn it
on
for the initial test run itself. I was in a hurry, and wanted 
to
see what would happen. Now I know.

This is all in the VG archives, if you want to download all of 
those
huge files and run text searches. At Bill Beaty's website there
used to be a photo of the first model, torn down, and sitting 
on my
kitchen counter.
One
more word of warning though, if you go onto Bill Beaty's 
website,
leave a trail of breadcrumbs or make bookmarks or something so 
that
you don't get lost. Whenever I visit Bill's website, I always 
get
lost for hours, if
not
days. It's pretty weird in there.
Knuke
Am Freitag, 13. Mai 2005 23:26 schrieb revtec:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Huffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Cavitation neutrons - was: Blast from the Past -
>
> I reread your article in 1995 vol. 1 , no. 1of IE which 
> concluded
> with
your
> impending success. What happened? Didn't your next model 
> work? I
recall
> knowing about your kitchen sheathed in yellow cake tiles, but 
> can't
recall
> if you told me that or if it was mentioned in a subsequent 
> article
> that
I
> am yet to rediscover. The implication was that the runaway
> operation
was
> possibly caused because the experiment was surrounded by
> radioactive
walls.
> I don't recall that you ever indicated that you used uranium 
> laced
> water
to
> fuel the turbine. Was it during the runaway describe in the
> article
that
> you suffered injury or was it during a later experiment?
>
> Jeff