On Sunday 29 May 2005 20:04, Terry Blanton wrote: > I agree with about 60% of Greer's philosophy; however, I think he has > found a few acorns: > > http://rense.com/general65/mall.htm
The good Mr Greer, fantasticaly while believing large business interests mostly if not all kleptocratic (amorally avaricious), yet is willing to accept ownership by that kleptocracy (his term) of the biggest prize in all science. That is control of ZPE! Control of this magnitude by a small group has in the historic past almost always led to changes in governance as well. We would not like those changes! As yet we have no hereditary so called nobility. The power conferred on the heads of the corporate interests controlling ZPE would soon change that, and not for the better. Many other changes would flow from that supreme denigration of the universal inalienable rights of man. No! Better to live in poverty than to be in involuntary thrall forever to a new round of 'devine right' monarchies and their inevitable wars. Want to see an inkling of the kind of corruption unimaginable power brings, watch the 'Goauld' characters in the hit TV program: "Stargate SG-1" on the Sci-Fi channel. Oh did I say forever? The cost of rebelling against the power held by such a group would be prohibitively high but for one other economic principle: the law of reverse entropy in business. Unlike the second law of thermo for science, in business the reverse applies within a given business grand cycle. All 'free' business are avaricious amoral creatures under the present environment of corporate rapaciousness and immunity of its leaders for legal responsibilities. Want an example? Go and live in Bhopal, India for a while with a family who was victimized by Union Carbide and listen good to what they have to say! Such business tend to 'merge' vertically and sometimes horizontally as well. This is against the dictum of the increase of universal disorder. The energy industry is a typical example. The same combinations own the oil vertically from ground to the gas pump, and horizontally to take in all the refineries, the stations, and ultimately corrupt the officials charged with inspecting it. This direction of monopolization has an inertia of its own, ultimately conferring total ownership upon so few individuals who actually control it that the resulting economic structure becomes overly topheavy and unstable. Its crash, like the end of Chinese dynasties, leaves the ultimate disoder in its wake as the cycle must now build anew on the ashes of the old. The process of dynastic change is defined in the ancient Chinese curse of 'interesting times'. Mao Tse Tung himself wrote of times when death was like the 'blossoms of the spring' or words to that effect. This kind of power should be government controlled. The process of obtaining energy in large quantities from ZPE may also involve higher orders of hyper-nuclear physics. Some of these processes may well involve the control of the shrinking or expanding of space itself, and that would confer on its discoverers control of intersteller travel, maybe even interuniversal travel. Foreigners from off world may well be uncomfortable with the thought of some of our crackpot missionaries suddenly having access to new 'flocks'....their children. They may be forced to action. This action would come quicker if the controllers of the technologies were corporations who legally could sell it to the highest bidder in secret sales to anybody's enemies. Or disgruntled employees within these corporations who either want a quick buck or to open a black hole under the feet of some object of their hatreds would give them unique and fatal empowerment however brief. The thought that their revenge could end the existance of themselves would probably amuse more than scare them. History is replete with many cases of suicidal attacks by such people. This is a debate whose points and counterpoints could and should go on; forever if necessary, until some satisfactory agreement is found for all the world's peoples. Not only this world, but all the worlds potentially affected. Folks in neighboring star systems would not appreciate the sudden appearance of a gamma ray burster in their interstellar back yard. Their people would like the sometimes dubious priveledge of growing old as well as ours. One of the reasons for going to space is to find a place far away to create a lab for studying dangerous things. We then would at least have a warning before a lab accident consumes us. I do not know that the deep study of ZPE would be dangerous; however I also do not know if it would not be; and it is far better to be safe than sorry. Easter Island Earth crowded with starving quarrelsome people and denuded of trees may yet arrive in a generation or two, but at least Earth would still be here and not some black hole orbiting the sun where we used to be. Who knows, if that happens to us, maybe our 'hole' would become an interstellar tourist attraction. Standing Bear
