----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen A. Lawrence and Robin van Spaandonk
Is there an example of a noise source with which this actually
can be made to work?
Send the current through a couple of transformers
that increase the voltage to about 10 V. Put a diode and
capacitor
in the output of the last transformer, and you have a (very
small)
source of DC current at about 10 V. The noise source will cool
it's environment till it reaches absolute zero.
The electrical noise will be random in nature, but the diode
"creates order out of chaos" by converting the complex AC into
DC.
Yes - But... this 1/f noise is not robust enough to make-up for
the transformer losses, normally - should you want to demonstrate
an available form of free energy (really heat and natural EM
radiation)
There is the prospect that 1/f noise can be captured most
effectively with a fractal antenna... which can be thought of as a
form of diode. Actually the "form" which is etched on these is
roughly triangular - somewhat like the diode electrical symbol. A
few folks will even tell you correctly that a tiny amount of
free-energy is available by rectifying the output of a fractal
antenna, or other kinds of efficient antennae like the helical
torus (CTHA), or Avramenko's plug. Yes, I know. Most of this
energy could be 'free' but still originate primarily from your
local broadcasting tower or from ambient heat ... but
nevertheless, it would be interesting (to perpmos at least) to see
if it is enough to keep a spinning top in motion for a time-frame
of years.
Here is a suggestion from an old post that I made a while back,
using 1/f and the spinning top toy, but never got around to trying
it.
The LEVITRON (tm)
http://www.levitron.com/
has been argued to be a "stolen" invention, so buying it from the
turkeys who mis-appropriated it is a problem, but nevertheless we
know that when the top spins in the range from about 20 to 35
revolutions per second (rps) it is stable - but unstable above 40
rps and below 18 rps. After a few minutes of spinning it always
reaches the lower stability limit due to air friction and falls.
The spin lifetime of the can be extended to about 30 minutes by
placing it in a vacuum. There is a "powered" version that requires
a battery and will spin a very long time even with no vacuum.
But there is a way that "almost perpetual motion" could be
obtained without the battery (would that make you a quasi-perp-mo
?) that is, if any tiny amount of "free energy" could be rectified
from 1/f noise, ZPE or whatever. This noise might be somehow
increased in the vicinity of the spin itself.
The head of Caltech's Physics Dept. has an interesting site:
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/display/displaycase.htm
where he discusses his efforts to keep a top spinning using a
battery. They achieved almost a year and had it not been for
earthquakes and so on, it could have been longer.
Go down to the item called: The Perpetual Top and then below that
is he shows the powered version of the Levitron.
I don't know why he didn't even consider replacing the 9 v.
battery with caps and an antenna - for effect - at least, even if
the EM energy is coming from broadcast waves instead of ZPE. Maybe
the answer is related to why he is a prof at Caltech, or maybe its
because he has too much education and too little inventiveness
(and/or exposure to vortex ;-).
Side note: Most technological progress - on an international
scale - does come slowly from incremental advancement of the
status quo by organized teams of specialists, and in my
experience, most professors are very good at facilitating that
slow process - but conversely, most are not worth much for riskier
adventuring and finding the "breakthrough". Less well-educated
inventors should be thankful for that - as it gives them a window
for the occasional big advance, unlikely as it might be...and the
big advance can start with an accident (Goodyear and Curie), or by
wiring something up incorrectly (profs seldom do that). OK. Enough
philosophizing.
To paraphrase and incorporate the 1/f capture idea into the info
from the
Cal Tech site:
The goal of the PM spin top (PM = either permanent magnet or
perpetual motion, depending on you boldness) is to make a device
that will spin for many years with no battery, only a tiny amount
of extra energy which could be supplied from 1/f or ZPE, assuming
that some of it can be rectified. Perpetual motion may be
forbidden by someone's so-called law and by our patent office, but
our solar system and every atom in our body indicates that things
can spin for many billions of years without loosing much, and that
should be adequate encouragement for present needs.
The spinning top contains embedded in it a small permanent magnet,
oriented perpendicular to the spin axis and balanced with a washer
near the lower end. The base contains a levitating magnet, a
bifilar coil around the levitating magnet, an NPN transistor, a
capacitor instead of a battery, and a fractal antenna. Many who
have been around "free-energy" ideas for a while will recognize
the professor's circuit, as modified here, as a tank circuit. That
is promising for reasons that he might not appreciate. The
electrical circuit would need to be enhanced from the schematic
shown - to include recharging the cap from the fractal antenna.
Probably a bridge rectifier is all you need between the fractal
antenna and the cap. This company can supply a fractal antenna:
http://www.fractenna.com/
After startup as the spinning magnet slows a bit, it begins to
wobble slightly and a current is induced in one winding in such a
direction as to make the base of the transistor (an NPN) go
positive. That makes the emitter-collector current flow through
winding B, in the opposite direction to A. This should both
speed-up and center the spin slightly, keeping it in equilibrium.
The induction from A to B is regenerative, doubly so if you use a
true bifilar coil, but there are small losses. There is no
preference to clockwise or counter-clockwise rotation for the top.
Actually you might improve on the good professor's design by any
number of specialties and gimmicks... Where is Scott McKie when we
need him?
The beauty of the system is that energy is fed back into the
spinner by its own control system regardless of how it is
spinning, and if the device is in a bell jar with a near vacuum,
levitated to eliminate friction, then the energy required to keep
up spin could be miniscule to the point of being nearly
unmeasurable. Will the fractal antenna supply enough to
continually recharge the cap(s) and permit perpetual spinning? I
think there is a fair chance of that.
The only thing that I can guarantee is if it did spin for years
with no battery... within microseconds of anyone announcing that
accomplishment, skeptics would jump out of the woodwork to claim
that the energy was coming... not from ZPE at all but from the
plethora of RF broadcast waves in any urban area, i.e. from TV,
radio, cellular, etc. And they would be correct, at least
partially.
Would putting the whole thing in a Faraday cage silence the
skeptics or silence the spinner ?
Jones