At 06:46 pm 21/06/2005 +0100, Grimer wrote:
>
William Beaty wrote:

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>> I suspect that we're looking at something unexplained.
>>
>> If I'm right, then people have been staring right at Ball Lightning for
>> decades, while at the same time fooling ourselves with wrong explanations
>> which "prove" that welding-spatter is something mundane.  
> I believe you are right because it is one more
> example of a phenomena which occurs on several
> different scales.
>
> It seems to me that the above, ball lightning, 
> Buckminster Fullerenes, Shoulders clusters,  
> and last, but by no means least, Paul Rowe's 
> hydrogen are all essentially the same systemic 
> phenomena at different scales. In short, they 
> are the result of intense hierarchical sets of 
> vortices set up by intense electrical discharge 
> which involves (d^n)L/dt^n of very high orders.

> On the subject of the ultimate collapse of 
> electron clusters to hydrogen it occurs to 
> me that hydrogen might be manufactured in 
> normal lightning strikes and that some of 
> the explosive force of those strikes could 
> be the result of a hydrogen-oxygen explosion.


And I thought I was being way out ;-)

But there are plenty of people who have 
been far more way out than the above.

Still, no one seems to have twigged the significance
of "(d^n)L/dt^n of very high orders."    8-)


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    http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/physics
    /Cold-fusion/fd-latest/thruFD3681

    PLASMOIDS AND COLD FUSION

    W. Bostick produced that which he called 
    plasmoids by discharging through electrodes.  
    Bostick wrote a paper that was titled
    "Plasmoids" that was published in 
    SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN in 1957(1).  
    He may have been the first to apply this 
    term to this phenomena.

    According to Peratt, Bostick coined the 
    term  In this paper, he had
    already began to tell others about his 
    speculation that galaxies and the phenomena 
    he produced were similar.  He compared the 
    shapes and the travel of these things. He 
    also speculated a little about the identity 
    of "particles."  He shows pictures of 
    different kinds of plasmoid shapes in the 
    article and related these to different kinds 
    of shapes of galaxies.  

    Many people including Bostick, Alfven who 
    is a physics Nobel Prize winner, Peratt and 
    Lerner have developed similar astronomical 
    theories that model the universe as plasmoids 
    and that can be said to be derivations or 
    summarizations of the experimental work of 
    W. Bostick and others.  It has become evident 
    that atoms can be defined as plasmoids, 
    especially as according to the phenomena
    produced by Ken Shoulders.  It seems that 
    there are many different kinds of plasmoid 
    phenomena.  The EVs that Ken Shoulders 
    produced and ball lightning may be 
    classified as kinds of this general 
    phenomena. 

    There is evidence that both plasmoids and 
    ball lightning are associated with neutrons, 
    radioactivity, production of elements, and
    excess radiation, and that they are a locus 
    of this.

    Based on the phenomena that Matsumoto 
    produced, the traces, the pictures and 
    descriptions of electrodes, the pictures of
    stationary BL and corona-like phenomena, the 
    visible BL-like phenomena that he reports, 
    and the sparks that he observed that left 
    traces like those produced during 
    electrolysis and discharge, one may 
    categorize CF phenomena as tiny ball-
    lightning or plasmoids.  Important evidence
    is the holes and trails on and in 
    emulsions and electrodes that Matsumoto 
    produced by discharging and electrolysis, 
    the holes in electrodes that Liaw et al. 
    produced, the holes in electrodes that
    others produced, the empty areas in 
    electrodes that are shaped liked
    grains that Matsumoto and Silver et al. 
    produced and the half-empty grains that 
    Matsumoto produced, and the holes and 
    tunnels and trails on and in electrodes 
    that Silver produced.  The tunnels, round 
    holes, and trail-like marks are similar to 
    those that are produced by ball lightning 
    phenomena, though ball lightning are 
    associated with bigger effects.  These 
    tunnels, round holes, and trail-like marks 
    are also similar to those produced by the 
    EV phenomena that K. Shoulders produced.  
    Silver and his co-authors who published a 
    paper in the December, 1993 issue of FUSION 
    TECHNOLOGY have reproduced the tunnels,
    holes, and trail-like markings in metals 
    that Matsumoto produced. These tunnels, 
    holes, and trail-marks are evidence of the 
    conversion and change of materials.  
    Important evidence that both CF phenomena
    and substance in general are plasmoid 
    phenomena is Matsumoto's experience of the 
    production of electricity by apparatus.  
    I suspect that plasmoid phenomena such as 
    electrodes and other materials may convert 
    to be bigger plasmoids and light and 
    electricity.  EVs and ball lightning are 
    known to convert to light and electricity.  
    I think that all substance can be identified 
    as plasmoid phenomena.

    I suspect that the round holes in electrodes 
    that Matsumoto produced and the round holes 
    and tunnels that Silver produced are due to 
    the boring of BL-like phenomena -- the 
    substance was converted to light, electricity 
    or other kinds of plasmoids, I suspect.  
    And I suspect that the grain-shaped voids or 
    pits that they produced is evidence of the 
    conversion of the grain to light or 
    electricity or of the production of other 
    kinds of plasmoids, though there may also be
    the distortion of the grains or the 
    dislocation of grains by separation.  Some 
    plasmoids are apparently able to travel 
    through materials, even if the plasmoids are 
    very big.  The plasmoids that Matsumoto has 
    produced does this, and this is major evidence 
    to support my deductions.  Matsumoto has also 
    shown pictures of sectioned electrodes with 
    what seem to me to be trail-like tracks, as 
    if tiny BL-like phenomena traveled inside and 
    eft tracks.
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"Plasmoid" - that seems a useful word. 
I'll have to remember it.

Reading about ""tiny plasmoids" brings to mind
Mizuno's tiny tornado picture on the front of his
book - all part of the same menagerie of Vortexian
phenomena. Not for nothing this discussion group is
called Vortex, eh!

Cheers

Frank Grimer

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