This'll make you smile, Jones.  8-)

Wanting to find out more about Nicholas 
Moller I googled, clicked on "Cached", 
scrolled down to the highlighted 
*Nicholas Moller* and started reading. 

This is good stuff I thought, where does 
it come from. I went to the top and found 
that it was in something called Mail Archive
which had a picture of a filing cabinet. 

Looking across to the left I had to laugh.
I found it was a post from our very own 
Vortex-L group - by Beene himself no less. 

I must admit I didn't really take it in at 
the time - but I do now.

I'm interested to see that you have actually 
met this geyser, Jones.

Now that I understand what is going on, 
I'm sure I could convince a potential investor.   8-)

There were an awful lot of posts that day so for 
the benefit of those who missed it - or like me, 
didn't really take it in, I have appended it below

Cheers

Frank Grimer


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Re: More MAHG & BLP
Jones Beene
Fri, 27 May 2005 07:58:11 -0700

Mike,


Hydrinophobes note: this may be a truly "independent" confirmation of BLP 
reactions. What would be the clincher is a window into the reaction chamber and 
spectroscopic analysis of the plasma there. Ironic that it may come from 
derivatily from Langmuir of 'pathological science' fame.




You might want to write up the details of this experimental work and put your 
hydrino slant on it , for the benefit of the HSG forum. I have given up posting 
there as it has disintegrated into something-else, these days. 


Anyway, I have talked to Moller personally when he was trying to get his new 
machine and tubes out of Russia, where they were made - and he was running into 
trouble with Frolov. He is a tireless, extremely dedicated, thorough and 
doggedly determined fellow, and I think that he will succeed. He is a 
man-on-a-mission, and that type of personality generally gets there first when 
the more brilliant fast-starters stumble. 


I mentioned several possible ways to Moller that he can increase the heating of 
the 'Langmuir effect,' if it indeed has some relevance to a hydrino effect, as 
well. That is, if it is related somehow to the hydrino via a Mills catalysts 
(for instance, among other enhancers is adding argon, helium and/or slats of K 
or Sr). 


If he has taken that advice, he apparently either hasn't shared it with Naudin, 
or at least they have chosen not to publish that part of it yet. There is more 
than one operating MAHG unit, one must suspect, and I doubt Naudin is privy to 
the best-one. 


Should Moller go self-powered, and I think it will happen soon, it will likely 
end all chance for Mills getting the Nobel prize, as the base-effect was 
discovered elsewhere a half-century ago, and Mills OS theory has holes, whereas 
Dirac's does not, and so what has Mills contributed really? a name for a 
hypothetical particle that he cannot even weigh? The notoriety of the big-prize 
seems to have been RM's main concern and goal, rather than a commercial unit. 
The end-result of Moller getting there first would be triple-irony in my 
opinion (almost a biblical message about pride?). 


Here is the forecast and dramatized chronology of the quest for OU in the most 
abundant element, which would make a good TV docu-drama - how about "The Quest 
for Hy-O-U" 


Flashback: Langmuir invents the torch, finds the energy anomaly, but gets the 
Nobel for something else. Langmuir balks at his own finding, as it goes against 
physics doctrine, and even goes on to popularize the whole "pathological 
science" shtick - all along thinking that his torch could not possibly violate 
the sacrosanct 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, on which physics is built. Even 
though Dirac could have told him otherwise. 


However, Langmuir writes private letters to Bohr about the "anomaly." 


Years later, Mills finds something similar, in an energy anomaly involving 
hydrogen, but ignores Langmuir and Dirac and tries to foster his own pet theory 
onto the effect, which the critics tear to threads (in their own mind). In the 
mean time, Mills has neglected to produce the all-important self-powered unit, 
which will be absolutely necessary to get mainstream physics to believe in it. 


A determined fellow and admirer of the "Great Dane" (Bohr) comes along, named 
Nicholas Moller, finds the old letters from Langmuir to Bohr in Copenhagen, 
raises capital, draws up blueprints for something similar, has the device built 
in Russia, where the Russians try to steal the idea and patent it there. Moller 
has to hire a competing Russian mafia to get the machine out of Russia, but 
turns it into a self-powered unit, using the wealth of ideas available over the 
internet to improve the device, and by tracking-down the people who follow 
these things closely and will talk with him and people like Naudin who will do 
the testing. 


Moller, the pragmatist and tireless hunter, and not Mills the more brilliant 
but egotistical genius, "gets there first" and gets the ticket to Stockholm... 
and probably more wealth potential than Gates. 


That is, unless Mills (and/or many others who are in the running) somehow get a 
big breakthrough and get any self-powered unit in operation "real soon." Many 
are tantalizingly close. Many have been in hot pursuit longer than Moller. But 
lady-luck plays a few cards in this deal also. 


Actually I am hoping for a local player to step in at the last second with the 
self-powered unit, but it could also be Moller or Mills or Storms or Shoulders 
or Tessien instead. The 2nd Law will crumble soon. IMHO the big prize for 
breaking the law (2nd Law) and throwing physics into the disarray it rightly 
deserves for ingrained pig-headedness - will go for the device itself, and not 
the underlying theory, which may take a generation to flesh out. Let me repeat 
one thing - massive heat OU is NOT going to be enough - you must demonstrate a 
self-powered unit to remove all doubt. 


That device may not involved hydrogen, instead it may be even simpler than most 
experimenters in LENR can imagine. Time will tell. 


Everyone but a handful of Dirac believers sees that P.A.M. held the kernel of 
truth but no one wanted to believe that a long-neglected theorist living in 
Colorado (Hotson), and most disturbingly (for the mainstream) publishing that 
'revised Dirac theory' in an iconoclastic "Infinite Energy," a totally ignored 
magazine by the mainstream - got the underlying theory right. So Hotson/Dirac 
will be intentionally disregarded for decades, and they will have to give the 
award for the device itself, not the correct theory. 


That is my (the eternal optimist's) take on how the story will unfold in the 
coming years (maybe months). I'm sure Randy et al. sees it differently. Al is 
always in there somewhere (methinks al is for 'alien'). BTW all vortex prophets 
and pundits are free to add your on spin on this upcoming docu-drama.. 


Jones 

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