wow... just.. wow.

big money supports dems?  sustainablilty is a liberal idea?

On 6/29/05, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ed Storms replied
> 
> >I agree with you, Frank, some cultures are better than others, just
> >as some scientific theories and some people are better than others.
> 
> Amazing coming from you Ed.
> 
> >Some cultures are peaceful while others go to war.  Some cultures
> >pretend to value the individual, while placing increasing emphasis
> >on the state.
> 
> Some cultures have a "Holy" book which tells them to conquer or
> convert the Infidels. Some cultures think that women should be
> treated like cattle.
> 
> >Some cultures are too corrupt to hold fair elections and others
> >allow big companies to rip off the population. Fortunately, we do
> >not have such a culture.
> 
> I've heard the stick that the election was rigged, I can't prove a
> negative. My bias would be that since the big money interests support
> the Democrats, they would have won. Your bias is that the big money
> interests support the war. My bias is that enough Christians showed
> up at the poles to give Bushie the edge.
> 
> As for the "Big companies ripping off the resources" corporations
> don't consume resources, people do. It is very disingenuous for
> someone like you, who has lived the American lifestyle, to complain
> about the resources that we are consuming. Do you have a car? does it
> run on banana peels or grass clippings?
> 
> >
> >Nevertheless Frank, I get the impression that you think a culture
> >based on Christian principles is better than one based on Islamic
> >teachings or Buddhism, for example.
> 
> I don't know about Frank, but I definately feel that way. It would
> seem to me that since their plan is to cut your head off, unless you
> want to covert to Islam, you agree with me on this issue.
> 
> >  To further refine the approach, I assume only certain Christian
> >beliefs are acceptable. I agree, Christianity in recent centuries
> >has provided a good culture basis, the behavior of the Nazis during
> >WWII
> 
> The Nazi's were pagans who killed more Christians were Jews!
> 
> >and slave owners in the US south being big,
> 
> The slave owners ignored the instructions in the Torah regarding the
> treatment of slaves. The high standards set resulted in slavery dying
> out in Israel. The Christians in the North East were the driving
> force behind the Civil War. Beginning in the late 18th century, their
> intention was abolitionism.
> 
> >but not the only, exceptions. But now in this century we are
> >presented with a problem.  Christianity, which is based on brotherly
> >love and a value to all life, is believed to be in a war with Islam,
> >a religion which represents a large fraction of the world's
> >population and which is in control of most energy sources.
> 
> As I have pointed out previously Ed, some of us believe that the
> embodiment of Edom in this generation is Islam, as Nazism was in the
> last generation.
> 
> >  In addition, we are now running out of energy, land space, and
> >water in many regions, but the Catholic Church will not support
> >population limitations based on birth control.
> 
> Not as fast as we are running out of time.
> 
> >The great Christian cultures are rapidly destroying the rain
> >forests, over fishing the oceans, and polluting the atmosphere with
> >CO2. In other words, a large number of Christians are taking several
> >approaches that may well destroy our own culture while spending
> >their political support and money trying to save other cultures from
> >"evil".  How do you deal with this problem?
> 
> Have you ever seen bugs (microorganisms) grown on a petri plate? They
> overgrow the medium and die. Well the Earth is a petri plate, and
> sustainability is a liberal myth.
> 
> >>At 01:55 pm 27/06/2005 -0400, you wrote:
> >>
> >>>thomas malloy wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>That area of agreement a leftist notion called cultural
> >>>>relativism (the idea that all cultures are all equally good)
> >>>>which is leading to cultural suicide.
> >>>
> >>>That definition of cultural relativity is completely wrong,
> >>>misleading and childish.
> 
> I was quoting Prager. Of course, I do have a bias to agree with him.
> I wish that you would spend a few hours listening to his program and
> then call in and set him right.
> 
> >>
> >>
> >>Etc.
> >>The real problem seems to be in the meaning of the word relativism
> >>as opposed to relativity. For example,
> >>     =================================================
> >>     Benedict XVI, however, has been critical of     progressive
> >>Catholicism. In a homily delivered     at a Mass before the
> >>cardinals began the conclave     Monday, he warned against
> >>"relativism, which is     letting oneself be 'swept along by every
> >>wind of     teaching.' [It] looks like the only attitude
> >>[acceptable] to today's standards. We are moving     toward a
> >>dictatorship of relativism, which does     not recognize anything
> >>as for certain and which     has as its highest goal one's own ego
> >>and one's     own desires."
> >>     =================================================
> 
> Cultural Relativitism has nothing what so ever to do with Special Relativity.
> 
> >>
> >>I wouldn't want to hoist you on your own petard because I think
> >>your post was very interesting and well argued.
> 
> If we fail to stop them the Islamists will do that after they take
> over the government.
> 
> >>
> >>However. I think you need to get inside the minds of people like
> >>Malloy and the Pope (and me for that matter) and recognise that we
> >>understand the word "relativism" in a different way than you might.
> >>8-)
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>
> >>Frank Grimer
> 
> Ditto it's been fun
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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