> Gosh Bill, you must surely be the patron saint of Trolls > these days, Vo is simply overrun with them.
Remember, Vortex has no real rules besides "no sneering," and that has consequences. People on vortex seem to want those consequences, otherwise I long ago would have added a "no flamewars" rule as well as rules entirely banning OT messages such as religion and politics. Occasional off-topic messages aren't a problem, but OT discussions belong on vortexB-L. And since vortex is a self-maintaining community, the usual route is for users to object loudly in public to any subscribers who post *continuing* streams of off-topic messages. On the other hand, we have a "no spammer" rule. I see unsolicited advertisements as abhorrant, and I'll happily remove any "salemen" who apparantly joined vortex in order to push any sort of "product." Or maybe I should extend that no-spam rule to include a ban on all other types of slimy advertisements? Messages containing either religious or political prosthletyzing for example? (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-789-0775 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci

