Jones,
That was a most eloquent presentation and I found myself in complete agreement. Your math in other posts is far beyond my limited mathematical understanding, but your precise analysis of this situation impressed me deeply.
Any inventor claiming to have broken established laws of science should be prepared to accept the beating of his life first, and later - present the proof one layer at a time. There are too many slick talking con-artists, all seeking the fast buck by way of interfering with the affairs of the most ordinary people. But OU by nuclear reaction, offends not the majority of hard working people that have no idea what it all means, it offends the most educated minds.
If a device is claimed to be unique and/or a New Technology, maybe that device should be able to produce materials that, when scientifically analyzed - will prove themselves to be heretofore unknown. What then? The most important aspect of any new technology is not the immediate use of that technology, but the possibility of future scientific discovery and its beneficial effect on the population. The answers will come from hard scientific analysis from people like you Jones - and hopefully, the answers will benefit mankind and not be sequestered away as with many other disruptive technologies. I may be wrong, but the ability of a Plasma to release energy no longer seems to be a hot issue - however the root cause may be debatable for years to come.
One consideration as to Ockham's Razor in the case of Plasma, is that all things are not equal, or self evident. The surface temperature can be hundreds of thousands of degrees cooler than the core (MIT), and the temperature 1inch away from the surface can be thousands of degrees cooler than that surface. Unexpected events seem to occur within the many different fields of Plasma research from Ken Shoulders transmutations and the many reports on LENR's by other methods.
Even though I have at times (maybe more often than not) been intolerable, my goal was to contribute a small kernel of new truth that others could comment on, and I appreciate being allowed to participate in a small way.
Best Regards,
Chris Arnold
Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In looking at any new device claiming overunity, almost every
observer who is willing to consider the possibility that
mainstream physics is wrong on the larger issue (negentropy) -
nevertheless still comes to the table with certain preconceived
notions - often rather strongly held theories, based upon their
own niche and level of understanding.
The MAHG is a case-in-point. If there is a true anomaly here, then
we have to ask what is the "ultimate" source of excess energy:
LENR, ZPE, the hydrino (redundant ground state hydrogen), or a
Langmuir atomic-hydrogen asymmetry?
Because of something further - a kind of nebulous allegiance to
the logic-maxim of "economy" - better known as Occkam's razor,
there is a decided-tendency NOT to see how all of these factors
can be strongly interrelated.
Perhaps they are all inte! rrelated, and quite substantially so,
such that LENR cannot occur without ZPE first supplying the
necessary energy to force H or D into a redundant ground state.
Funny. Even in the broader heresy labeled as "pathological
science" - the above statement, which adds to the confusion by
confounding William of Occkam on top of everyone else in
mainstream physics, is probably considered to be the most
untenable kind of heresy ... even by the practitioners of
less-pathological-science. Kind of reminds me of that famous
"whiter than thou" SNL skit... the one with Garrett Morris and
Julian Bond.
Good.... I find some degree of contrarian satisfaction and reverse
snobbery in being labeled as not just in the lower caste, but
among the untouchables of physics... not the lowest-of-the-low,
mind-you (Dante's rock-bottom is becoming densely populated with
the free-energy scam artists, former Enron execs, war-for-oil
neo-cons, and ambulance-chasing trial lawyers, etc.).
All the while realizing that "what goes around, comes around" and
among the first group to "come back around" into the new and
improved mainstream of tomorrow's emancipated world of science,
will be the a few of the ones who have gone the farthest afield of
the present-day luddites (without loosing touch, so-to-speak).
Jones
Yes ... it is not out of the question (or even difficult) to
become so far-detached from reality that one looses that
all-important firm grip on the merry-go-round of enlightenment.
After all, most of what science tells us, is correct. In fact, the
hard part is in appreciating how far, and in what directions, that
one can depart from the mainstream without loosing that firm
grasp.
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