At 12:56 pm 11/07/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>I have read Mollar and now Langmuir on dissociation of H2 and I can not find 
>anything in the Langmuir paper which would have led Mollar to believe that the 
>recombination was ou.
>
>Does anyone else see it?  It is in a different publication from the May 4, 
>1912 document?
>
>


It seems to me that Moller was simply parroting Lyne as can
be seen from the following extract quoted by Bearden at the
end of the following web page:-
http://cheniere.org/misc/a_h%20reaction.htm

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Quote from William Lyne's book "OCCULT ETHER PHYSICS:
Tesla's Hidden Space Propulsion System and the 
Conspiracy to Conceal it"
By William Lyne
Second Revised Edition - Pages 84-88
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    The atomic hydrogen reaction first came to my attention in 1964, when I was 
studying industrial processes at Sam Houston State University, in Huntsville, 
Texas, the year after taking an introductory course in college physics. While 
reviewing various welding processes in a textbook, my eyes fixed on an older 
process called "atomic hydrogen welding". By that time, the process was already 
considered "obsolete". To me, the process seemed valuable, not only because it 
produces such high temperatures---above 3400° F.---enough to melt 
tungsten---the highest temperatures producible by man---but is also 
"self-shielding", and can be used to weld diverse metals, often without flux, 
with a concentrated flame producing little heat distortion, when welding thin 
metal. In the process, 'normal' diatomic H2 is shot through an electric arc 
which dissociates it into "atomic" hydrogen, H1. This atomic hydrogen 
recombines at the (welded) metal surface, producing the very high heat. Though 
th!
 e process interested me then, and always has, I have never seen an atomic 
hydrogen welding unit for sale, for the 31 years hence. Industry's obvious 
excuse for laying the valuable process aside was that it had been 'replaced' by 
'better' processes, such as Heliarc, TIG, and MIG welding, though they rarely 
mention "plasma arc welding", which has also almost disappeared from the 
market. Since plasma arc welding is merely an extension of the atomic hydrogen 
process, using a specially redesigned torch, the 'mysterious' reasons are 
undoubtedly the same. 

    The process simmered in the inner recesses of my mind for a few years until 
1976, when I rekindled my interest in the process for possible use in welding 
stainless steel and reducing and fusing platinum metal compounds, because 
hydrogen reduces such compounds (which must also be shielded from oxygen) to 
metals. The atomic hydrogen process does not rely upon the combustion of 
hydrogen with oxygen in the air, but upon the "atomic" energy released when 
atomic hydrogen recombines to form the 'normal', diatomic hydrogen. I still had 
some unanswered questions, since the various welding data at my disposal failed 
to mention sufficient specific details. If Nikola Tesla was right, then I am 
right, that the energy comes from the ether . 

    Because I knew of no source from which to purchase an atomic hydrogen 
torch, I decided to build one, but my information was inadequate for proper 
construction. In the torch I made, the hydrogen gas entered the arc 
concentrically, around both electrodes, instead of passing through the arc at a 
right angle. I also used the wrong kind of arc transformer, so it didn't work 
as well as it should have. 

    Despite the disappointment, I knew the torch would work better if I 
corrected the problems, so I kept the torch in my barn until better information 
and sufficient time was available. I excited the curiosity of the industrial 
spooks, when I rented a large tank of hydrogen at a local welder's supply, and 
this probably contributed to the sudden acceleration of the CIA-maintained 
judicial harassment I endured between 1974 and 1992 (18 years). They apparently 
assumed I was exploring the process for its energy potential, rather than for 
just welding, and they were correct. My torch is shown below: 

    In the '70s, I had acquired an old English inorganic chemistry textbook l, 
purchased from Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory salvage for $.25, which 
contained a halftone photo of a '30s-vintage atomic hydrogen welding torch, 
along with some basic data. The torch shown was different from the one I 
constructed, in that it used a high voltage arc transformer, and had no 
mechanism to strike the arc electrodes together to start the arc, because the 
high voltage made it unnecessary. It also showed the gas passing at right angle 
through the arc. In this old textbook, it was stated at page 170 (emphasis 
mine), as follows: "Langmuir (1912) discovered that hydrogen at low pressure in 
contact with a tungsten wire heated by an electric current is dissociated to 
some extent into atoms:"...."This absorbs a large amount of energy, about 100 
kcal. Per gram-molecule. " "... The atomic hydrogen formed is chemically very 
active. Atomic hydorgen is formed when an electric arc between tungsten!
  electrodes is allowed to burn in hydrogen at atmospheric pressures (Fig. 106) 
". 

The text continued: 

    "Atomic-hydrogen blown out of the arc by a jet of molecular hydrogen across 
the arc, forms an intensely hot flame, capable of melting tungsten (m. Pt. 3400 
o). This flame obtains its heat from recombination of hydrogen atoms to H2."


    "Hydrogen being set free in a chemical reaction is often more reactive than 
hydrogen gas."

    "...the activity of such nascent (newborn) hydrogen, in the act of 
liberation from its compounds, is due to the hydrogen being in the atomic 
state." 


    In checking this data in a more recent Van Nostrand's Encyclopedia of 
Science z., at page 1311 it was stated in pertinent part: 

    "Hydrogen molecule dissociate to atoms endothermically at high temperatures 
(heat of dissociation about 103 cal/gram mole) in an electric arc, or by 
irradiation." "...the hydrogen atoms recombine at the metal surface to provide 
heat required for welding." 

    I was surprised to find this in the Van Nostrand encyclopedia, but I also 
found that in 1910, the D. Van Nostrand Company published a book by HaIler and 
Cunningham, entitled The High Frequency Coil, (The construction of a Tesla Coil 
for the advanced amateur. 119 pages), so there is a record of sorts, of Van 
Nostrand's association with Tesla. 


SMOKESCREENS FROM ACADEMIA

    It seemed odd to me that it was later suggested that the 103 calories of 
dissociation energy absorbed from a very brief exposure to the arc is the same 
heat as that "...required for welding" as described, and I believed it to be 
more reasonable that the excess heat had to come from "elsewhere". The 
dissociation energy would be analogical to a slice of bread (@4 cal. gram), and 
the gross output would be equivalent to 60 loaves of bread (@1814 cal. lb.), 
calorie-wise. There was too much disparity between the two, with plenty of 
suspicious omissions and confusions, in an obvious attempt to cover up the 
truth in between. 

    The older text showed the clearer construction of a device, and the newer 
text showed that only 103 cal./gram mole were required for dissociation, while 
the older text showed that 100,000 cal./gram mole were liberated on 
recombination. Only by jumping back and forth between the two sources was I 
able to put a complete documentation together, and discover the conflicts. 

    It was apparent from the newer text, that the writers intended for us to 
believe that the final l00 k.cal./gram molecule heat---later upped to 109 
k.cal/gram molecule---was absorbed from the arc, but the 103 cal./gram molecule 
dissociation heat figure showed a net 108,897 cal./gram molecule unexplained. 
If there are about 65 cubic centimeters per mole of hydrogen at its critical 
volume, it seemed highly unlikely that sufficient energy to weld could be 
absorbed from the 'dissociating arc', during the time required for 65 cubic 
centimeters of gas to pass from the orifice and through the arc. 

    109,000 cal./gram mole equals 432.6 BTU/gram mole--- roughly the heat 
energy contained in 60 loaves of bread---the "extra heat energy" which they 
have asked us to believe is 'stored' in an amount of atomic hydrogen which 
weighs 1/28th of an ounce, during its brief passage through the arc! How could 
the transformer produce that much energy, especially when it uses only half 
what it does in conventional welding processes? It seems more likely that 
excess heat could be stored in molecules than in 'almost naked' atomic hydrogen 
atoms. What ever happened to Bohr's little atom! It got bigger, and bigger, 
and........

    Between the older text (1921-1950, from the first and sixth editions) and 
the newer (1976) Norton science encyclopedia, it was obvious that science was 
much more straightforward in the pre-National Security Act days, and that . . . 
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