From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC: Intelligent design
> Mike Carrell wrote: > > >The implication of this is that the manifest universe with all its > >complexity can be a process originating from a discrete logical seed whose > >recursive operation is completely deterministic, yet whose product is > >infinitely complex, like the Mandelbrot set. > > That seems manifestly true. > > > >Human brains are arguably the most complex things in the universe . . . > > In the KNOWN universe. I'll bet there are way more complex objects > elsewhere. Furthermore, I'll bet that in another 200 years or so, there > will be computers and other manmade objects more complex than brains. I > hope they are more predictable and they work better than brains! I hope > they do not run Windows Version 100. > > - Jed --------------------------------- Neural networks are ***not*** computers. They are not algorithmic. Penrose, in his book "Shadows of the Mind" devoted a long section to AI and concluded that there are mathematical problems that humans can solve but have no algorithmic solution, therefore beyond "artificial intelligence". Algoritmic computers can be programmed to imitate the non-linear, reentrant structures of neural networks to explore their properties by emulation. However, the bechavior of these emulated networks cannot be "programmed": they may be taught, they may learn. But the closer they get to the complexity of an animal brain the more they will be subject to unpredictable behavior. Perhaps some wired-in features of human brains could be left out. Mike Carrell > > > >
