I can't fault your argument but several things should be noted.

   * Royal Dutch shell is also the largest solar power player and a
     very big portion of its profits come from solar cells on millions
     of thatched third world rooves.  The Australian arm of the company
     claims that the solar section is carrying the oil section in terms
     of profitability. I don't know if that it true world wide.
   * Secondly with environmental pressure and the greenhouse pressure
     are adding to the cost of setting up new refinery facilities.
     There is now a great barrier to entry that prevents new players
     from entering the market. While the petrol stations are owned by
     the supplier they are able to block new players and new energy
     technologies.
   * Strong cross ownership in the past of oil and automotive
     companies, each with a lot of the others shares in their asset
     fortfolios and pension plans, tends to discourage non oil based
     automotive design. This situation is now in flux since the Exxon
     valdez incident. Losses forced the oil companies to sell key
     blocks of shared. The asian automotive inroads on to western
     markets has an impact on the car side. Things are shaken up but
     not  to the point where power dynamics is changed.
   * Oil companies have a huge reserve asset they can claim, oil in the
     ground that they have rights to. Even when things go bad they can
     borrow against this asset to smooth cash flow. Most other
     industries can't claim resouces that are still under ground to the
     same extent. This will change radicly once CF is proven. The oil
     futures and the asset value of the remaining oil will change radicly.
   * Govenments see oil as stategic; we don't have solar tanks or
     fighters yet so shifting the country, any country, to an energy
     source that is incompatable with the defence infrastructure is
     seen as unwise. The pentagon is the oil industries biggest but
     quietist backer. The first fusion tank will change those equations
     overnight and the oil industry will be on its own.

I'll have to do some checking for other points.

Steve Krivit wrote:

This, I was asked by someone today, when discussing the apparent shortage of oil and price escalation that appears to be related to supply/demand. He referred to this snip:

1) *Oil* <http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Oil/index.html>* > Big Oil's obscene profits <http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050804/EDIT/508040321/1003&template=printpicart>* - Exxon Mobil, the world's largest publicly traded oil company, announced a 32 percent boost in second-quarter profits, the third-largest increase in company history. Royal Dutch Shell, the world's third-largest oil company, reported second-quarter profits up 34 percent. British Petroleum's were up 29 percent. ConocoPhillips, America's third-largest, reported profits that skyrocketed by 51 percent. (/Cincinnati Post/; Aug. 4) (Thanks Al Burns) [Gouging us in the name of Peak Oil]



This was my response. What say you, wise Vorts, to my comments?

Maybe the oil companies are making huge profits because ....

a)...they can b)...they are in it for the money, and not public welfare c) ... a simple economic factor: Supply low, demand high. But this variable is independent of the actual cost. Again, simple economics. Make (or build) a product for 1x cost, sell it for 2x cost. This is simple capitalism, and how we all dream of obtaining personal financial wealth. My guess is that their actual costs of raw materials and production have not increased a whole lot in recent years, and they have not inserted massive capital into development and exploration, so their costs have stayed somewhat flat. Alternatively, sales prices have gone up. Result: net profit increases. That's my theory.

The attribution of "obscene" is not objective. People seem to think that the oil companies are beholden to society. This is senseless to me. They are beholden to their owners and shareholders. On the other hand, those of us who have somewhat of a utopian view, may feel strongly that energy should be a God-given resource, available as freely as the air, and perhaps, as freely as clean water should, ideally, be available. But, that too, is another matter. Independent of oil company profits, independent of peak oil. A does not equal B, B does not equal C, and neither does A equal C.

That's my $.04 (inflation, you know)

What I REALLY want to know is if ANYBODY in mainstream American press is saying ANYTHING about the concept of peak oil, not just production maximization, which is a smaller, tertiary aspect of peak oil.
Steve


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