Jed Rothwell wrote:
Wesley Bruce wrote:
I better outline the experiments. The maths and chemistry is error
free but the assumptions are wrong. The assumption of dating is that
the gases argon, lead
vapor, radon etc escape from the volcanic lava before it hardens. . . .
In one case they took about 20 samples from a lava flow that flowed
over a road in New Zealand, 1953. These samples are all young. They
were sent to labs world wide and the calculated dates came back as
millions of years old. When the results were published the labs
scrambled to cover up or explain the results.
I have to grant, it sounds like someone has uncovered a serious
problem with the use of these instruments for these materials.
However, such problems are uncovered all the time in every aspect of
chemistry, archaeology and biology. That is called progress. However,
finding problems with one technique or one set of data does not mean
you have disproved the whole of theoretical basis of modern biology.
That would be like saying that because we have discovered cold fusion,
we can now dismiss all of the theories and discoveries in plasma fusion.
I just ask you to be as open to the creationists as you ask others to
open to the data on cold fusion.
I have been open minded. I can't help it; it's my nature to consider
any hypothesis. But I fail to see how creationism can be falsified or
tested; every organ that is supposedly too complicated to evolve
obviously did evolve because you find precursors; and biological
mechanisms are about as unintelligent as anything could be. If there
is a designer he is not intelligent but rather pathologically stupid
or just plain malicious. Ask any woman in labor.
No creationist I know of has ever attacked cold fusion.
So what? Neither has any member of the Ku Klux Klan, as far as I know.
The creationists have had decades more experience at fighting these
subtle and overt attempts at suppression.
They deserve to be suppressed. They would replace science with
superstitious malarkey. They would lead us back into the dark ages
when people's minds were enslaved by fear, ignorance and illogic. They
are as bad as the people who want to replace medicine with faith
healing, and democracy with theocracy.
The only problem is that suppressing them usually backfires and
encourages public support for them, so I think it is better to ignore
such notions as long as we keep them out of the public schools.
I think you have good reasons for wanting to prevent Al-Qaeda from
getting cold fusion nuclear subs or something.
There is not the slightest chance Al-Qaeda will *make* cold fusion
devices, or for that matter, conventional fission bombs. The only
danger is that they will steal these things. Al-Qaeda and their ilk
are incapable of making any technology. Even though the Al-Qaeda
leaders are trained engineers and medical doctors, their followers are
ignorant savages mired in a medieval mindset that rejects modernity
and all that goes with it. Such people could not make a bicycle, a
vaccine or a transistor radio, never mind the airplanes they used
against us, or the nuclear bombs they are trying to steal from the
Russians. The only way they can hurt us is to use our money -- the
money we pay for oil, that is -- to buy or steal our technology. And
the only way we can stop them is to cut off the money, and help the
Russians secure or dismantle their warheads.
The Chinese are a different story. If they develop cold fusion several
years before we do, they will be in a position to develop the weapons
are described in my book, in chapter 11. That will make their military
utterly invulnerable. They will be able to destroy every American ship
and airplane at the touch of a button, with no danger or inconvenience
to themselves. In other words, the weapons technology gap will be as
large as it was in the other direction in 1842, when a handful of
British ships defeated the entire Chinese military and Emperor. The
British used their immense power to force the Chinese nation to buy
British opium, which addicted and ultimately killed millions of
Chinese people. If the Chinese develop cold fusion and we do not, they
will be in a position to dictate foreign and domestic policy to every
other nation on earth. Let us hope they are more enlightened than the
British were in 1842. Frankly, I would not bet on that, knowing the
Chinese government and the way it treats vassal states such as Tibet.
- Jed
We will have to agree to disagree on origins I guess but I think my
point is valid and will help a little. You now know that creationist do
do lab work which is probably news to everyone but me. My point is
confirmed, the reaction to cold fusion is in many people more to do with
a deeply held beliefs about what is and is not science and what is and
is not superstition. Our most vocal opponents are not ignoring the data
they simply can't conceive of the concept that any data worth reading
exists. The skeptics are in a time warp thinking only of the past data.
Like wise many think my creationist friends are superstitious flat
earthers. They aren't most of them have two Ph D's. The point is that
there are serious problems with dating that have been kept out of the
news and the text books. The black ban on cold fusion was not a one off
case. It was plugged straight into a preexisting editorial program,
read black ban, already in place in most of the science media. And
no-one flinched or complained because they've been selectively banning
origins papers for over 100 years.
I think I agree with Jed on Al-Qaeda and China. I hope he's right on
al-Qaeda and I hope we get something better from china. But Jeds
probably called both accurately. However Al-Qaeda's average operative
has and engineering or computing degree. Their fairly good at setting up
world class communications and intelligence networks. Hammas in Gaza is
becoming fairly good at making rockets but the can't aim the dang things
accurately.
The military implications of cold fusion are huge but everyone wants to
worry about CF bomb. A fusion powered tank travel ten times the distance
it can go today, fighting for days on end, (no waiting around for the
gas trucks to catch up), we can expect an age of hit and run, hide and
seek warfare with tanks! As jed notes in his book a fusion powered
bomber (with two crew and a bunk) could fly from any where on the planet
hit a target and head home. Subs will be built and some will be stolen
by the wrong people. As we move into the Fusion age we must ensure that
the regulations and regulators are up to speed.
