Nick further to what I said, you are going to find out who the real loonies are when the lights go out. There is no substantial primal green power source and if you think a few pretty wind mills in the north sea, a bit of fart gas and a solar panel is going to do it you're nuts.
I heard to today T. Blair off the record said the same (Today program R4). In this and some other matters (some) the US is correct. There ain't enough generational capability without gas, coal and nuclear. FACT. Energy conservation good but not all the story. Kyoto seems good but is impossible at present. FACT. If politics is the "art of the possible", the ones getting their hands dirty and not being obnoxious are trying to make it possible. So don't call people in possession of the FACTS loonies. If you were trained you'd know Kyoto is impossible - right now.
