Hi Vorts,

I received the below link from a member on another list:-

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its both in russian and english and contains a ton of animations and 
whatnot having to do with vortexes, fish-like movement and whatnot.
<http://www.vortexosc.com/index.php?newlang=english>
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There is some pretty interesting stuff on this site. The following is a
comment I thought might interest some of you by one of the list members:-

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What I found interesting in looking at this site 
<http://www.vortexosc.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=21> 
and it's related articles are the definitions below which expand and at the
same time loosen the grip of the laws of thermo dynamics: 
Laws are developed to further understanding in that they allow the
formulisation of perceived phenomena AT THE TIME OF PERCEPTION (This
includes, the place, the individual and the time) This does not mean they
are correct for all time because all things grow, and therefore change. If
we allow others to do our thinking for us then their CONCLUSIONS in terms of
formula or statements can prevent development of new ways of perception that
may be beneficial. Matter is condensed energy. Statements and laws are
condensed perceptions, unlike matter they may not be useful. Binding our
thinking to such laws may be one of the reasons Cycloidal Space Curve Motion
Machines are not in every day use. 
When we are first attracted to these ideas we are thirsty for knowledge, we
type in implosion in search engines & join groups like this, it satisfies us
for a while and we sit back waiting for the answers to come. How are we to
be like the trout in the high mountain stream where swimming in an energised
medium it effortlessly picks its nourishment and is guided to the source by
the scents coming down stream? 
In a way the internet is not always helpful because it gives us the effects
rather than causes, The way is understanding the first principles, when
these are understood an individual can design the machines they want. 
If we were embarking on a conventional course of study we would go to
lectures and be guided by professors, our progress would be marked or
graded, in maths I was always told to go back to first principles. There are
many centres around the world that use these principles but no one coherent
way to first unlearn our original programming and start to learn the new
ideas. 
I have only just found that there are some principles that are needed. We
find them in nature -the indirect ways- if the most efficient way to move
something was a straight line we wouldn't have a Cycloidal Space Curve
Motion . 
We want to understand things discreetly as we first came to understand
living things by killing them and cutting them up to name their parts. Now
we are coming to understand our universe or multiverse by including
ourselves so we are not likely to start cutting. Our learning has to come
another way and it is not just external we have to follow the motion of the
water and turn the outside inside, just as a foetus grows. In my journey
recently I have been looking at labyrinths (mazes) that are 2d models of
this 3d process and celebrated for centuries, how did they know? 
Intuition is the key. 
number 2. below caught my attention because the repulsine causes the
difference in pressure that runs it from the surrounding fluid that is, for
want of a better term, entropic, even, no temperature gradient. In 3 we have
a particular movement CSCM, not sure about the other laws. 
The 2nd law of thermo dynamics says "in all energy exchanges, if no energy
enters or leaves the system, the potential energy of the state will always
be less than that of the initial state." what is noticeable by its absence
is the WAYenergy is moved. It only describes a snap shot in what is a linear
system. 
I think CSCM acts as a key to a new dimension of energy non local? Eather
Scalar lots of names, because this possibility is not allowed in
conventional mechanics we can never open the door-as long as we think that
way-to reactionless movement and non polluting power. 
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What I found interesting above is the phrase:-
"Laws are developed to further understanding in that they allow the
formulisation of perceived phenomena AT THE TIME OF PERCEPTION (This
includes, the place, the individual and the time)This does not mean they are
correct for all time because all things grow, and therefore change. If we
allow others to do our thinking for us then their CONCLUSIONS in terms of
formula or statements can prevent development of new ways of perception that
may be beneficial."
Considering the traffic lately on Vortex I thought it very appropriate,
especially "This does not mean they are correct [Laws] for all time because
all things grow, and therefore change".
Maybe this could be the "easy out" for Parksie and his stance on CF that he
has been looking for?
Regards,


John Rudiger
Perth   WA

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