thomas malloy wrote:
So you maintain that life just happened? You believe that nonliving
material just became animated?
Yup. I am sure of it. You should not pretend to be surprised that I
think so. Most biologists agree, as I am sure you know.
Having mentioned the complexity of the system, which I'm sure you are
aware of, and the irreduceable complexity of subsystems like the eye,
then there is the entropy reversal aspects, I'm surprised that you
would not at least concede that the system could not have occurred
spontaneously.
unded and not a bit controversial.
Energy increases the information content in living systems (mainly
expressed as DNA), but nothing can organize life, plan it, or give
it any purpose. It is manifestly without purpose.
Given the complexity of living systems, that belief is, to put it
mildly, improbable.
You equate complexity with purpose -- with intelligence. There is
absolutely no basis
No, I'm saying that the Second Law isn't called a law because some
physical systems can get around it. Quite the opposite, I don't know
of any way to get around it.
Oh come now. You know better than that. There is no overall reversal
of entropy on earth.
Yes there is, it's called the sexual fusion process. The synthesis of
phytochemicals is another example. Sure the Sun is running down, I
suppose at some point he'll have reset the system, so what?
I don't understand how the movement of the stock market is germane
to the complexity of the living organism.
As I just explained, both are examples of complexity without
organization, purpose or plan.
I disagree with your analogy. I don't see any similarity between the
stock exchange and protein synthesis, not to mention the proteins
going to the various subsystems of the cell right where they are
needed. The electron transfer mechanism which allows for ATP
synthesis comes to mind. Seven organometallic complexes forming a
chemical to electrical energy to chemical energy transfer. Citric
acid is oxidized and ATP results, I believe this to be another
example of entropy reversal.
I believe that if children are presented with the complexity of the
system, it's divine nature will be obvious.
