Jed Rothwell wrote,

Conventional nuclear plants are not good at turning on and off quickly, so we would need a buffer of dispatchable generation capacity, probably natural, hydrogen or biomass.

This is true, but it does not mean that there is not a potential synergy with solar (i.e. solar and nuclear used together).

Because the steam temperature which can be used with conventional nuclear is limited by many metallurgical issues, the Carnot efficiency is not normally very high, but that is where concentrated solar energy could possibly be used to advantage.

This is especially relevant since peak solar hours usually coincide with peak electrical demand (due to air-conditioning). If the normal limits of nuclear steam are 1000 F and concentrated solar can boost that steam to 1500 F, this makes a large Carnot efficiency difference... and for the pyrolysis, i.e. thermo-chemical splitting of water, the temperature-boost is even more important. However, to my knowledge there are no hybrid nuclear/solar plants in operation (or even planned).

Incidentally, here is another idea for solar hydrogen generation, from the Weitzman Institute in Israel:

http://www.energycooperation.org/solarh2.htm

"The new solar technology . . . [creates] an easily storable intermediate energy source form from metal ore, such as zinc oxide. With the help of concentrated sunlight, the ore is heated to about 1,200°C in a solar reactor in the presence of wood charcoal. The process splits the ore, releasing oxygen and creating gaseous zinc, which is then condensed to a powder. Zinc powder can later be reacted with water, yielding hydrogen, to be used as fuel, and zinc oxide, which is recycled back to zinc in the solar plant."

Yes, and elemental Zinc for the Zinc-air battery for automotive may be an even better use for their process - as this is a lighter battery than most, but the main drawback is that zinc needs replacement rather than a simple home recharge. One could conceivably mount solar a few solar concentrators over converted filling stations to provide some of the zinc for refills - possibly even around a home or farm if some clever inventor comes up with some kind of 'cassette' or cartridge so that molten metal or fumes or never an issue .

The "big picture" will surely be a mix of many diverse technologies - and the risk of that is that to get the lowest cost in any one technology - the manufacturer needs to get to volume production. For wind energy this would be very important as mass production of common parts would save a huge amount. I suspect that if government were to step-in now and say - yes we are going to order a thousand nuclear plants before 2020 and that same energy level in wind farms etc - and then divide up the tasks to the most qualified parties at cost-plus (foregoing some of the capitalist mentality) - then far lower installed prices are possible... Perhaps not as low as that Russian News article: ha! a $200K nuclear plant is impossible (they must be using a very old exchange rate ;-) - but standardization is the sane way to do this - and one of the reasons the French are doing well economically these days.

Jones

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