Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Standing Bear's message of Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:52:00
-0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Hasn't Iraq provided the military industrial complex with enough
profit yet? They need a war with China as well? I assure you,
after any such war, there would be no military industrial complex
left (or much of anything else either for that matter). China is
no little middle eastern country with a weakened army and no WMD.
So China plays the same game internationally as the US. Tough, get
used to it.
Mind you, I am no supporter of the Chinese regime per se. But
disposing of them is a job for their own people, not the "World
Policeman".
I agree; both of you make very good points.
Its the enemy you don't see that will kill you. Yet my point still
stands the communist party in China is bleeding members in huge numbers.
We can't rule out a collapse of communism in China or a shattering of
the peoples republic, both would be messy, very messy. Hopefully cool
heads may prevail, a lot of old party bosses have gotten rich lately and
the newly rich tend to see war or civil war as a great threat to the
shiny new cities they have built. Poorer provences further west and farm
boys from the countryside may be the only people rushing into the
millitary.
We are already in a military space race with China.
Agreed. If China get to the moon next it wont do much harm. It will
consolidate the possition of space as the long term fronteer it is. The
carrying capacity of earth is about 8-10 billion, we are aproaching 6.5.
The carrying capacity of outerspace is 30 to 50 billion with
conventional technology. 70 billion if we invent self propergating
technologies: Dyson trees on mars and self assembling space stations
elsewhere. If China gets the moon I can sell them my one g artificial
gravity system. I really do have an artificial gravity system for the
moon and mars. It's amazingly simple.
This warning about the most odious threat to our people and
culture and values in the history of man is plainly evident to those who
would open their eyes to see.
And who also wrote: None are so blind as those who would not see.
Maybe Anton Checkov was right.
He is now probably weeping in his grave to see what is in store for his
nation.
At this stage China can afford to buy what it wants in Russia and there
are towns in the Russian far east that are staving for capital. They'll
take anyone’s money. These's some suspicion that a lot of the illegal
porn on the web comes from near bankrupt communities in the Russian far
east that are too poor to fight off the mafia kiddie porn crews that
swing from town to town.
Standing Bears warning is valid for some in China but watch out for
india also. The Indian Hindu fundimentalists, BJP etc may return to
power and they are just as dangerous to non hindus in India and places
where indians are a large minority: the pacific, south east asia and the
carrabian. The risk of a show down bettween india and china over world
resources can't be ruled out. With the new energy resources described by
many Vorts we could defuse the global resource shortages and head off
any fight. We need cold fusion, hyperconductors, cheap maintinance free
solar and anything else that will work. Give me energy and I'll give you
clean water from the air, steel from dust, and Car bodies from sewerage.
If you can figgure out how those three work you win a prize.
Got to go. I just remembered its my birthday. Party time.
