At 11:13 pm 08/11/2005 -0500, Standing Bear wrote:

>We actually DID betray the French, in wartime, in Dien Bien Phu back
>in the last century.  The French were trying to hold onto their colony, 
>Viet-Nam, then called French Indo-China.  Cute name for an ancient
>country with a proud history of independance against Chinese aggression
>for over a thousand years.  They even beat Ghengis Khan three times
>when they tried to invade them.  The French thought they could do better.
>It was said by a German politician that the French should have been able 
>to hold on to Viet-Nam as they 'had the best killers in Europe'.  He was
>referring to the inside joke among world politicians that the foreign legion,
>heavily involved in the Viet-Nam campaign, was composed of very large
>numbers of former Deutschen Schutzstaffeln on the run from the Nuremburg
>Trials-----fugitive SS.  Even Elie Wiesel looked the other way at the French
>use of these.  Elie probably hoped, and was later vindicated in this, that
>southeast asia would become the graveyard of most of these psychopaths.
>Point of fact the French were losing because the level of casualties even
>among these people were becoming politically unacceptable to the French
>citizenry.  DeGaulle turned to 'Give 'em Hell Harry' Truman for help, and 
>ole' Harry came up with 'Operation Vulture'  This was an Air Force plan to use 
>the big silver birds, B-36's and the new then secret B-47s to bomb Viet-Minh 
>army positions in the mountains around Dien Bien Phu in order to drive Mr. Ho 
>Chi Minh to the conference table.  Sound familiar?!  Well Mr. Ho and Gen Vo 
>(actually a cousin by marriage with my ex!!!!!!   along with Madame Nhu) 
>stood pat knowing they had a winning hand if they could just hold the 
>People's Army together a little longer (not exactly a sure thing then).  
>Problem for the beleagured former SS men cowering in the valley of death
>was that Truman did not run for re-election, preferring to go back to his
>farm in Missouri.  This left 'I Like Ike' Eisenhower to make the actual 
>decision to act on the warplan  and  gooood ole' smilin'
>Ike, whose picture hung like an insipid dream over just about every civil
>and uncivil servant's desk, decided to let the French hang out to dry.  He
>cancelled the plan and put out the disinformation that 'we knew nothing about
>the plan' for public consumption.  So Operation Vulture joined the UFO
>presence in the government's world of blissful non-existance.  This incensed
>the French general staff, and one Gen DeGaulle in particular who saw it as
>a personal betrayal by a former comrade in arms, Ike.  That betrayal 
>rankles in French politics and colors its opinions and actions to this day. 
>
>Standing Bear


A very interesting history lesson, Standing Bear - Thanks.  8-)

Frank


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