thanks to Jones and Akira for yr input,
You are right Jones , Honda led the way on this for a while , regretably they were as you say composite and I am after solid Ceramic .
have had some luck in China and am following up akira,s idea with Kyocera.
Interestingly I think Kyocera came out of the beautifull Ceramic history in japan and even more the German companies came out of Dresden ( Dresden China? )
If anything come of this I will let you know.
Rgds
Noel Whitney
PS - Havnt been out on the bike for 4 months ( Honda 650  bros - ( USA Hawk650)

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